Is Calzaghe a Top 25 Fighter in the last 30 Years?

[Macho Madness]

Felix Trinidad-all he had is left hook, big puncher, no skill whatsoever
-O man... i cant believe im reading some of this stuff.

Roy Jones Jr
-Will kick the crap outta Calzaghe for sure...

Bernard Hopkins-barely won fights against journey men, never dominated anyone in his weight class, hugely overrated
-I guess Glenn Johnson, whom he knocked around the ring for 12 rounds in both of their primes, wasn't a dominant performance

Floyd Mayweather
Lennox Lewis
-Thank god you didnt debate these two.

Evander Holyfield-this guy got like 10 losses so i don't know how you got him on the list, how many losses does joe have?! that's right, 0
- Alright, now im sure ur just ****in with us lol

Mike Tyson-crack addict, tested positive for marijuana, got beaten by journey men, has wins over HW which participated in the worst possible era
- The HW right now is the worst possible era. Tyson in his prime was a great fighter.

Larry Holmes-worst era ever
- Good lord. A top 10 heavyweight ever.

George Foreman
-Surprised u didnt debate this one..

Manny Pacquiao-keeps fighting washed up mexicans
-And beating them...

Erik Morales-famous for fighting mexicans that hold these weird titles nobody knows like, ifh, wbs and **** like that
-??? Do you have any idea what u are talking about?

Marco Antonio Barrera-famous for fighting someone like morales, who's pretty much nobody knows
- AyAyAy

Julio Cesar Chavez-tomato can, got ****ted on when he stepped up in competition like his son, overprotected fighter, hometown fighter
-lol

James Toney-LOL!
-James Toney at 168 would have wiped the floor with Calzaghe. **** woulda been embrassing.

Juan Manuel Marquez-this guy goes up in competition and loses, can't handle pressure, not champion worthy
-Best of the Mexican trio man... twice the fighter Calzaghe is obviously

Wilfredo Gomez-LOL! who?
-10x the fighter calzaghe ever will be

Alexis Arguello-who?
-11x the fighter calzaghe will ever be

Miguel Cotto-LOL! cotto better than calzaghe?! your boxing knowledge is nano-like
-Not yet, but he almost certainly will be by the time he retires. And he is far more talented obviously.

Aaron Pryor-overrated flashy fighter
-Goodness gracious

Roberto Duran
-Thank god u didnt debate this one. thank GOD!!!!

Kostya Tsyzu-beaten by an exposed brit
-You have never seen any of his prime fights

Thomas Hearns
Sugar Ray Leonard
-Nice

Winky Wright-LOL! lost to vargas who got beat by an overrated ODLH
-Practically dominated every fighter he fought, outside of his losses.

Shane Mosley-it's not surprising his PPV are garbage, he's overrated
-Overrated? Yes. better then Cazlaghe? hells yes

Michael Spinks-good amateur that's it, didn't belong in the prosim sure there are more fighters...
- Are you aware that he never lost pre-tyson?

agree with u 100%

[abadger]

its hard to believe what im seeing

you think Calzaghe is better than Wright, Tsyzu, Mosley, Cotto, Toney, MIKE TYSON, Felix Trinidad and Bernard Hopkins

Yes I do. You can try and explain to me why they aren't if you like, but you'll be wrong, I promise.

[Chunk..]

These threads are never going to have balanced opinions as long as Calazghe is the topic.

[Macho Madness]

Yes I do. You can try and explain to me why they aren't if you like, but you'll be wrong, I promise.

most of those fighters got there losses when they were way out of there prime, kostya tzyua would of killed that pathetic pom in hes hayday

[MANGLER]

In terms of talent he's as good as those guys but not in terms of accomplishments. Reigning at SMW for a decade is impressive but not as impressive as it woulda been had he beaten more big names. Not all Joe's fault but it keeps him from gettin the same props other great fighters get.

[Xplosivo]

Yes I do. You can try and explain to me why they aren't if you like, but you'll be wrong, I promise.

i dont think nothing else should be said after this...the nuthugging is quiet shocking if you think Calzaghe is better Tsyzu, Mosley, TYSON or Trinidad...he hasnt even achieved 1/10th of what those fighters did most of them were p4p no 1 at one point...and beat named fighters, some of them were the youngest champions and achieved quiet a lot in their long career

i think this is like beating a dead horse

[pesticid]

i dont think nothing else should be said after this...the nuthugging is quiet shocking if you think Calzaghe is better Tsyzu, Mosley, TYSON or Trinidad...he hasnt even achieved 1/10th of what those fighters did most of them were p4p no 1 at one point...and beat named fighters, some of them were the youngest champions and achieved quiet a lot in their long career

i think this is like beating a dead horse

Well isn;t Calzaghe the best ever at 168 and now the best at 175 without a single defeat?

[Xplosivo]

Well isn;t Calzaghe the best ever at 168 and now the best at 175 without a single defeat?

everyone would be undefeated with fighting tocker pudwills, byron mitchells or peter manfredos of the world....the best name he has faced was an ancient hopkins who he couldnt clearly beat....the best win was kessler who hasnt proved **** yet and is already thinking about retirement

please highlight the ones you think calzaghe has accomplished/achieved more than in boxing:

Pernell Whitaker
Oscar De La Hoya
Felix Trinidad
Roy Jones Jr
Bernard Hopkins
Floyd Mayweather
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
Mike Tyson
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Manny Pacquiao
Erik Morales
Marco Antonio Barrera
Julio Cesar Chavez
James Toney
Juan Manuel Marquez
Wilfredo Gomez
Alexis Arguello
Miguel Cotto
Aaron Pryor
Roberto Duran
Kostya Tsyzu
Thomas Hearns
Sugar Ray Leonard
Winky Wright
Shane Mosley
Michael Spinks
Jose Luis Castillo

[Macho Madness]

i dont think nothing else should be said after this...the nuthugging is quiet shocking if you think Calzaghe is better Tsyzu, Mosley, TYSON or Trinidad...he hasnt even achieved 1/10th of what those fighters did most of them were p4p no 1 at one point...and beat named fighters, some of them were the youngest champions and achieved quiet a lot in their long career

i think this is like beating a dead horse

like i sed in another thread calzaghe nut huggers are liek ****in ****roaches now days, they just dont stop coming

[pesticid]

i dont think nothing else should be said after this...the nuthugging is quiet shocking if you think Calzaghe is better Tsyzu, Mosley, TYSON or Trinidad...he hasnt even achieved 1/10th of what those fighters did most of them were p4p no 1 at one point...and beat named fighters, some of them were the youngest champions and achieved quiet a lot in their long career

i think this is like beating a dead horse

Kostya? Are u for real? He got beat by a club fighter for 11, 12 rounds and quit. Then got to the top and quit again.

Mosley? What has he done besides beating DLH. He lost twice to Forrest very, very convincingly and Winky Wright beat him even more convincingly. He's got a no contest against Raul Marquez. Barely escaped David Estarad. Same thing with Cruz at 147.

Tyson? What about him? Who has he beat? He got beat by Danny Williams and Mcbride, quit against both of them. Lost to thte biggest underdog of all times in Buster Duglas, lost by ko by the way. Holyfield demolished him.

I'll give you Trinidad of that list but it's still such a subjective subject.