Why do u dislike certain fighters?

[abadger]

The common question that is asked everyday throughout the world for various reasons:

What've you done for me recently?

What? I say, what?

[ElGranLuchador]

lets see i dislike:
mayweather for being a coward
malignaggi for being boring
roy jones for being on steroids
paul williams for being tall and boring
taylor for getting gift decisions
hopkins for being a cheater and a disgrace to boxing
chambers cuz he got exposed after so much hype
joe messi cuz he will never step up
chris john because he got a clear gift against marquez
campbell because the only reason he defeated diaz was because of that nasty cut
brian vera and andy lee for being trash
calderon for being a marathon runner
tarver for being ******
pacman cuz he is ducking marquez
steve molitor for hi******* the ibf title
berto for being an undefeated prospect in fact i dislike all protected undefeated prospects except chavez jr and a few selected others like gamboa or valero
im not too fond of linares and luevano style
and im starting to dislike cotto because of his ****** fans
k thats enough i think

[Dirt E Gomez]

What? I say, what?

You people are ******ed. We're talking about the past as to why people thought Lacy could beat Calzaghe and why nobody gave a **** about Zag outside of a small group of people.

Now it's obvious as he has stepped ups his level of competition and made his resume actually respectable to warrant this praise he receives.

[Dynamite Kid]

You people are ******ed. We're talking about the past as to why people thought Lacy could beat Calzaghe and why nobody gave a **** about Zag outside of a small group of people.

Now it's obvious as he has stepped ups his level of competition and made his resume actually respectable to warrant this praise he receives.

Lacy did'nt warrant praise u idiot but he still got it based on his passport not his credentials

Calzaghe warranted praise from British fans because they have seen him his whole career and could there for form an opinion on his credentials ,Americans just based his credentials on the fact he has never fought in the states & he was 30+

Lacy had fought in the U.S and was tipped to win coincidence NO ,albiet he was fighting bums and still looked stiff as board then & threw wide hooks

[Dirt E Gomez]

Lacy did'nt warrant praise u idiot but he still got it based on his passport not his credentials

While fighting in the US does help your exposure, beating credible fighters and winning by knockout in an extremely weak division does quick to bedazzle people. People were excited about a relatively young, strong kid who they hoped would make big waves because he was so fan friendly.

Calzaghe warranted praise from British fans because they have seen him his whole career and could there for form an opinion on his credentials ,Americans just based his credentials on the fact he has never fought in the states & he was 30+

His credentials were ****. Bottom line. Before Kessler + B-Hop his resume was one of the ugliest piles of **** in boxing. It was better than Ottke's I suppose, but that's not saying much.

Lacy had fought in the U.S and was tipped to win coincidence NO ,albiet he was fighting bums and still looked stiff as board then & threw wide hooks

Lacy was fighting relative bums, yes, as is/was the large % of super middleweight division. Calzaghe had the chance to fight the better bums and try to unify for years, but instead chose to sit on his ass fighting weak competition. It's not rocket science as to why everybody wanted Lacy to win and Calzaghe to lose, and it has very little to do with nationality.

[abadger]

While fighting in the US does help your exposure, beating credible fighters and winning by knockout in an extremely weak division does quick to bedazzle people. People were excited about a relatively young, strong kid who they hoped would make big waves because he was so fan friendly.



His credentials were ****. Bottom line. Before Kessler + B-Hop his resume was one of the ugliest piles of **** in boxing. It was better than Ottke's I suppose, but that's not saying much.



Lacy was fighting relative bums, yes, as is/was the large % of super middleweight division. Calzaghe had the chance to fight the better bums and try to unify for years, but instead chose to sit on his ass fighting weak competition. It's not rocket science as to why everybody wanted Lacy to win and Calzaghe to lose, and it has very little to do with nationality.

So are you saying that it was justifiable to believe that Jeff Lacy was better than Joe Calzaghe?

[Dirt E Gomez]

So are you saying that it was justifiable to believe that Jeff Lacy was better than Joe Calzaghe?

Yes and no. At the time, given Lacy's recent performances compared to Joe's + a lot of talk about him rebreaking his hands during training camp I think it was completely understandable. I did, however, mention that the odds for the fight were very bad and if I had cared I said I'd have waged on Calzaghe.

Also, use of the word "better" I'll make a point about. At the time, the delusional people would've said Lacy was better than Calzaghe. However, in the matchup given the facts at hand it was understandable to presume Lacy could win.

[Dynamite Kid]

Yes and no. At the time, given Lacy's recent performances compared to Joe's + a lot of talk about him rebreaking his hands during training camp I think it was completely understandable. I did, however, mention that the odds for the fight were very bad and if I had cared I said I'd have waged on Calzaghe.

Also, use of the word "better" I'll make a point about. At the time, the delusional people would've said Lacy was better than Calzaghe. However, in the matchup given the facts at hand it was understandable to presume Lacy could win.

Lacy was beating nobodys and still looked stiff ,one dimmensional ,slow, surely that should have been a good indication for your dumb ass that he was a little overated

[Dirt E Gomez]

Lacy was beating nobodys and still looked stiff ,one dimmensional ,slow, surely that should have been a good indication for your dumb ass that he was a little overated

Overhyped and overrated are 2 different things. I don't think a post exists where I ever lavished Lacy with praises saying how great he was. The division was full of bums, and Calzaghe wasn't even fighting the better class bums w/ shoes, so to make fun of Lacy for doing so is obscene. ****, Lacy even unified 2 belts about 5 years faster than Calzaghe even tried.

You can give up though. If your only defense for everything I post basically comes back to you saying Lacy was overrated because he was American and Calzaghe beat him, then I've proven my point.

[The Hammer]

Reasons I might dislike a fighter:

1. Using fouling tactics to win (hold and hit, headbutts, etc.) (Hopkins, Skelton)

2. Being a crybaby, making excuses for a loss, blaming judges, etc. (N'Dou, Holt, Briggs, Hopkins)

3. Not being a good sport: i.e., trashing your opponents, not giving them credit for winning (Hopkins, Briggs)

4. Ducking potential opponents, not caring about the fans, not being willing to face the best (Mayweather)

5. Having fans that make them out to be more than they are (Haye) or having fans that trash my favorite fighters. (Toney)

6. Criminal and de****able behavior outside the ring (Butler, Hilton) (I don't include Tyson because I believe he was not guilty of ****)

7. Being a mediocre fighter, yet still getting a lot of media attention - white hypes (Manfredo, Litzau).

8. Cheating with steroids (Toney, Hoffmann)

9. Holding repeatedly in fights (Hopkins, Ruiz, Skelton)

10. Running from your opponent in the ring (Guzman)