james toney vs joe calzaghe prime for prime at 168

[bsrizpac]

Location: Sheffield, England.



Location: Wales


Location: England (uk)

European posters are such a joke on this site.

wow....not shocking though

[sparked_85]

so what?

This is a close fight in most people's eyes.

[bsrizpac]

so what?

This is a close fight in most people's eyes.

I don't mind people's opinions. Just when they are boringly predictable 100 percent of the time.

[GTL]

James Toney's defensive ability is MASSIVELY overrated. Sure he was an expert at making himself hard to hit with his old-school body and head movement, but this wasn't a guy who never took a clean shot like Floyd Mayweather. That defensive movement made up for a relatively static and predictable style, which he further compensated for with an excellent chin, superb timing and countering and when needed, naked aggression.

Toney was at his most comfortable in fights against slow brawlers like Barkley, and Williams, he had no trouble making the telegraphed punches of fighters like this miss, and making himself look good, but when in with fast boxers it was nothing like the same story. He was behind on the cards (I think) and outboxed by Nunn when he pulled out that incredible stoppage, and Littles was making him look a bit sluggish before James once again found the KO he needed. I don't even need to mention how he looked against Roy Jones.

I'm not saying that James Toney isn't a top class fighter, but to suggest he would beat Calzaghe easily is ridiculous. Joe's speed alone gives him every chance in the world to outbox Toney, and he is also one of the few fighters out there to match Toney for both resilience and the ability to introduce naked aggression. Add Calzaghe's superior workrate and stamina and you have one of the toughest style matchups imaginable for James Toney, and a fight that if he came in at anything less than his best, Toney would almost certainly lose.

joe calzaghe does NOT KNOW how to BOX..
he can fight.. not box..

watch that mother ****er man.. tony could box.. and took on everybody.. calzaghe didnt..

[Ryn0]

Prime Toney-Prime Calzaghe (who could ****)
Close UD

[Jim Jeffries]

Was Toney in his prime both fights he lost to Montel Griffin (ages 26 and 28?)
Remembering that Griffin is a guy that Roy Jones Jr blew out in the first round.

[TheGreatA]

Was Toney in his prime both fights he lost to Montel Griffin (ages 26 and 28?)
Remembering that Griffin is a guy that Roy Jones Jr blew out in the first round.

Here is the end of the fight:



Worst judge of all time Doug Tucker included. Toney looks fat, sluggish and unmotivated.

Griffin is also a guy who was giving Jones one of his toughest fights which ended in a DQ loss for Jones, he wasn't that bad. He just had a suspect chin, being a 5'7 light heavyweight and all.

I have yet to see anyone score this fight in favour of Griffin aside from the 3 judges.

[RichCCFC]

James Toney = One of the most overrated boxers in history.

[Jim Jeffries]

Here is the end of the fight:



Worst judge of all time Doug Tucker included. Toney looks fat, sluggish and unmotivated.

Griffin is also a guy who was giving Jones one of his toughest fights which ended in a DQ loss for Jones, he wasn't that bad. He just had a suspect chin, being a 5'7 light heavyweight and all.

I have yet to see anyone score this fight in favour of Griffin aside from the 3 judges.

So you're saying he was robbed in both fights? And if Griffin was 5'7" with a suspect chin, what's with all these KO predictions over Calzaghe, whose chin I believe is pretty solid.

[BrooklynBomber]

joe calzaghe does NOT KNOW how to BOX..
he can fight.. not box..

watch that mother ****er man.. tony could box.. and took on everybody.. calzaghe didnt..

Are you nuts, Calzaghe knows exactly how to box, moreover his boxing ability is not limited to boxing cliched movements that most of the fighters use. He has an excellent adoptability to his opponents style and rhytm, he utilizes great head movement and is much more loose then the guys who follow the usual jab-jab- step back-right cross type of boxing.