hmm yeah im sik of that wlad owns guy, he actaully thinks wlad is a top ten p4p fighter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and he thinks the heavyweight division is in good shape!!!!!!
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Originally posted by WLAD OWNS View PostStop your whining and crying you little *****, Russian Denis Boytsov is the best heavyweight prospect, he has a very promising future.
The heavyweight division is dominated by Eastern Europeans and will continue to be dominated by Eastern Europeans for a very long time, get used to it.
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Originally posted by Scott9945 View PostWell I think you'll be able to make a case that the winner of Arreola-Spoon will have beaten a better fighter than Boytsov ever has.
ive been watching him for a long time now. he's exciting to watch and i dont doubt his ability. but i dont make him into god like these other guys do.
watch some of his fights, he's fighting old overweight slow men, he goes in there and he rushes them like a truck and blows them out there. and no it's not because he's so good, it's because they are so bad.
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Originally posted by aussieboxer2320 View Postyah for another 18 months to 2 years max. haye will unify the belts man, he'll rack up some good wins grow into a comfortable fighting weight at hw and then bam!!! wlad will go down like a soviet submarine lol
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Originally posted by WLAD OWNS View PostI thought all British people are Limey's??
By the way, Haye is actually half white/half black.
A limey is a white English person navy person that travelled to the new born america on the first British boats and ate Limes to try and prevent scurvy.
Seeing how David Haye is of African descent how can he be a limey
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Originally posted by texanballer View PostTunney knows his heavyweigh ****, i wannak now what he says about the guy
I like Boytsov's aggressive, crowd-pleasing style, which is a lot more fun to watch than defensive-minded boxers like Byrd. And Boytsov keeps in great shape, unlike about half of the top 50 heavyweights. And at age 22, he still has time to improve, unlike the age 27 heavyweight "prospects" like Malik Scott and Egon Roth.
To the thread starter: add up the wins and losses of almost every other heavyweight prospect after 20 fights, and it won't be much different. Even Tyson fought a lot of bums as his first 20 opponents, knocking them out in the early rounds, but then struggled at first when he moved up in class, and began to win a few decisions instead of early KOs.
There's only a few really good young heavyweights, and most of them are from Eastern Europe. It is not racist to say that, any more than saying in 1970 most of the best young heavyweights were black and American. I think Arreola may have a great future, but I'll know more about him after he fights the slick Chazz Witherspoon on June 21. I think Travis Walker may have potential. And perhaps Eddie Chambers, but like Boytsov he's perhaps a bit too small.
The only heavyweights so far who have fought decent opposition in their first 20 fights are Lewis, Povetkin and Solis, but they were all a few years older than Boytsov when they turned pro (he was 19), after longer and brilliant amateur careers.Last edited by The Hammer; 05-18-2008, 12:46 AM.
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Wlad_owns
remember what your boy said "talk is cheap"
how about you do what i did, create a new thread with a poll, and ask if people think he's the best heavyweight prospect?
if you win, you get everything i said, and public apology
you loose, you get the **** out here, and give your points to whoever you want, i dont need them. give them to your racist buddy tunney before you leave whatever.
the way you talk you so confident, and you think your opinion is right
well how about doing what i said, if you not a *****. do it
and dont say this bull**** "o well you know most of these guys dislike white europeans, and are jealous, and wont vote for a white fighter" dont say that, because it's old. you calling other people racist, when in truth you are a racist.
o ****, lets even have a poll, let's see how many people want you to go, or stay. if they want me to go, ill leave. they want you to go, you get the **** outta here with your racist bull****?? DEAL
you been here longer than me, more people know you, you have all the advantages.
deal?
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Originally posted by Tunney View PostI'm not sure about Boytsov yet. He looks great against clubfighters, but I think he's a bit small to ever really dominate the heavyweight division. If he was about 6'4" I would be more confident about him.
However, I like his aggressive crowd-pleasing style, which is a lot more fun to watch than defensive-minded boxers like Byrd. And Boytsov keeps in great shape, unlike about half of the top 50 heavyweights. And at age 22, he still has time to improve, unlike the age 26 or 27 heavyweight "prospects".
To the thread starter: add up the wins and losses of almost every other heavyweight prospect after 20 fights, and it won't be much different. Even Tyson fought a lot of bums as his first 20 opponents, and then struggled at first when he moved up in class, and began to win decisions instead of early KOs.
There's only a few really good young heavyweights, and most of them are from Eastern Europe. It is not racist to say that, any more than saying in 1970 most of the best young heavyweights were black and American. I think Arreola may have a great future, but I'll know more after he fights the slick Chazz Witherspoon on June 21. I think Travis Walker may have potential, and perhaps Eddie Chambers, but like Boytsov he's a bit too small.
The only heavyweights that fought good opposition in their first 20 fights are Lewis, Povetkin and Solis, but they were a few years older than Boytsov when they turned pro, after having long and brilliant amateur careers.
i dont want to waste my time, especially to prove an obvious point, but i can dig up an interesting thread, where you called me ******, and said that's he's the best prospect. and you were basically making him out to be into a super contender.
what you saying now seems a little hypocritical, now that i broke everything down and more people agree that this is all bull****. you say things when it's convinient to change your mind, thinking people forget
i know that you know which thread im talking about. and personally like i told you im not gonna waste a minute of my life trying to look for it.
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Originally posted by WLAD OWNS View PostHahaha....Haye won't do ****, he has a glass chin, **** defense, poor stamina, keeps his left hand too low and has an amatuerish style...He is tailor made for someone like Wlad....Haye is way too overhyped, he hasn't even beaten anybody, he just knocked out some bums in the Cruiserweight division...BIG DEAL...Cruiserweight IS and always has been the ****tiest division in boxing.
secondly haye hasnt exclusively fought bums, he has beaten macca, a solid all round boxer that just wasnt up to hayes class, that mormeck guy, another good fighter, and some other good cruiserweights. heavyweight is the ****tiest division in boxing dude, it has ****in no top class fighters we all wanna watch, what about the wlad-sultan fight?? it was a ****ing disgrace to boxing , watch the lighter weight divisions (ie flyweight-welter) they are the best divisions in boxing, take a look at the official ring magazine top ten p4p and you will find mostly boxers on the lighter end of the scale, with a few middles and light heavys and super middles mixed in. no heavyweights whatso ever, so just shut up
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