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  • Tony628
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    #41
    Originally posted by natas206
    Anyways, I'm cool w/arguing with you any further about this, your name is on the top of the "calzaghe nutthugging list" that was made several weeks back. Further, there was a thread made shortly after their fight about who would win prime vs prime and the majority picked hopkins, so I'm not in the minority in my way of thinking.




    if you're talkin about this thread the majority picked calzaghe.

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    • GTL
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      #42
      Originally posted by abadger
      I think posting and reading this forum has had me and many other Calzaghe fans here half convinced that Joe Calzaghe doesn't measure up to the US holy trinity of Roy Jones Jr, James Toney and Bernard Hopkins.

      Well guess what, I've been watching a load of fights featuring all four of these fighters over the last couple of days, and that opinion is bull****. Joe Calzaghe is a match for those three in every way shape and form.

      Prime for prime he would defeat all three of them. I am tired of kowtowing to the majority opinion on here and compromising my own reading of these fighters games.

      I heartily suggest to those of you who dismiss Calzaghe to go away and watch some of his fights again, and subject his game to the same kind of analysis you give to your favourites. I suggest the Kessler fight. Calzaghe posseses speed and unpredictability only marginally inferior to Jones, his power is fine, his chin incredible, he is incredible at adjusting, excellent defensively and can box, brawl and counterpunch.

      Prime for prime he would KO Jones, decision Hopkins and IMO absolutely own James Toney, who would have absolutely no answer to Calzaghe's work rate.

      You can start calling me delusional, but I have just realised that I am not. The only delusional thing I have been doing is ignoring the evidence of my own eyes and trying to make my observations fit in with the predominantly US opinion on these boards. I'm not doing it anymore.
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      • Dynamite Kid
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        #43
        Prime for prime he would KO Jones, decision Hopkins and IMO absolutely own James Toney, who would have absolutely no answer to Calzaghe's work rate.



        i have THB this is one of the worst posts ive read on NSB

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        • ИATAS
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          #44
          Originally posted by Tony628




          if you're talkin about this thread the majority picked calzaghe.
          Don't remember that one, but here is one that says calzaghe would lose to both Jones and hopkins prime for prime:



          63% picked Calzaghe would lose to both of them prime vs prime.

          So there is a conflict of opinions there, will just have to void that out for arguments sake.

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          • RichCCFC
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            #45
            That's because of Roy Jones.

            The americans leeched onto it.

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              #46
              Originally posted by abadger
              I think posting and reading this forum has had me and many other Calzaghe fans here half convinced that Joe Calzaghe doesn't measure up to the US holy trinity of Roy Jones Jr, James Toney and Bernard Hopkins.

              Well guess what, I've been watching a load of fights featuring all four of these fighters over the last couple of days, and that opinion is bull****. Joe Calzaghe is a match for those three in every way shape and form.

              Prime for prime he would defeat all three of them. I am tired of kowtowing to the majority opinion on here and compromising my own reading of these fighters games.

              I heartily suggest to those of you who dismiss Calzaghe to go away and watch some of his fights again, and subject his game to the same kind of analysis you give to your favourites. I suggest the Kessler fight. Calzaghe posseses speed and unpredictability only marginally inferior to Jones, his power is fine, his chin incredible, he is incredible at adjusting, excellent defensively and can box, brawl and counterpunch.

              Prime for prime he would KO Jones, decision Hopkins and IMO absolutely own James Toney, who would have absolutely no answer to Calzaghe's work rate.

              You can start calling me delusional, but I have just realised that I am not. The only delusional thing I have been doing is ignoring the evidence of my own eyes and trying to make my observations fit in with the predominantly US opinion on these boards. I'm not doing it anymore.
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              Glad you have made such a brave stand there, Chief. I mean, arguing about what so-so would to the other in their primes is dangerous stuff. But I'll be a brave little soldier and try:

              Prime Zags KO's Prime RJJ? Please, step away from the three foot bong...

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                #47
                Another one.

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                • Dynamite Kid
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                  #48
                  abadger;
                  Prime for prime he would KO Jones, decision Hopkins and IMO absolutely own James Toney, who would have absolutely no answer to Calzaghe's work rate.


                  u forgot to mention Calzaghe beating Monzon & Hagler

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                  • Pugilistic™
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                    #49
                    From watching Calzaghe vs Hopkins it shows that Calzaghe Struggled with a 43 year old Hopkins who actually faded in the last couple of rounds. A prime Hopkins would not fade, the workrate Hopkins used at 43 could of gave him the victory, in his prime he had a clearly better workrate, as for calzaghe's power it may be better than what it is now but it was not ever good enough to trouble Hopkins, Hopkins has a great chin. Hopkins also has better defence and Joe's defence is **** to be honest. Hopkins in his prime would win UD.

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                    • Haglerwins
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                      #50
                      Hopkins ruined him. He made him look like he couldn't even fight. It's one thing to look ordinary, but he made Joe looked like he couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag. Did yall mofos see the gif natas posted. Calzaghe tries to force a flurry missing everything and akwardly lunges himself in front of Hopkins amidst getting decked for his efforts. That was the fight in a nutshell, this was like what
                      I saw on fight night. He barely got passed a man who did everything he could to conserve energy in the bout, including trying to milk excessive recovery time for 2 feigned low blows. The fact that Hopkins looked an ancient 43 when it was all said and done and Joe got what many consider to be a questionable win is a testament to Bernard's greatness.

                      You guys thinking Joe beats Nard in his prime are nuts, when the version that fought Wright would've ran away with the victory. **** even Wright put up a better showing against Bernard than Joe and Wink was gassed after 10.

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