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  • rj_ct
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    #11
    Originally posted by Bhopreign
    I havent seen such a name guy handled so poorly in recent years. All of Zab's high profile matchups lately have not been good matchups for him, he seems to not have a smart team, they are just cashing out, or are just not realistic when it comes to who he can and cannot beat. To me Mosely would have been a bad fight and a loss for Zab, just like the proposed Clottey matchup. He needs a smarter team and if he would drop down to 140 which I beleive he can he would make more money in the long run and also have a legitimate shot at grabbing several titles.
    i agree to an extent, but at the same time i respect the fact that he is willing to fight anyone. but i definitely think he would be more effective at 140.

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    • Bhopreign
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      #12
      Originally posted by feed-the-goat
      He would knock Hatton out, are you mad? Hatton would dominate Judah from start to finish
      Sounds like the same sentiment from all of Europe before he fought Floyd, you mad?

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        #13
        Originally posted by rj_ct
        i agree to an extent, but at the same time i respect the fact that he is willing to fight anyone. but i definitely think he would be more effective at 140.
        I respect he will fight anyone also, but that isnt smart, especially in boxing where people view losses as a very monumental thing and tend to forget about you when you do lose. Therefore he should be matched against someone who is credible in which he has a much greater chance to win.

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          #14
          He probably would if he could still make 140. He'd still have to fight more than 6 rounds though. If he can do that I think he could be the man at 140. Him and Hatton would be interesting. I think he could beat Paulie.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Bhopreign
            Boxing is about matchmaking. Any fighter out there, there is someone he probably shouldnt fight purely based on styles.
            yes this is true but most top fighters around WW are capable of beating Judah the guy got beaten by Carlos Baldomir FFS ,Clottey aint even a WC & Cotto is over the hill and Judah stil aint good enough to beat them Iin your opinion LOL

            Aparently u want him to to face lesser oposition in a less competitive division so he can be successfull do me a favour that is called overprotected in my book

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              #16
              Originally posted by Terrible...
              yes this is true but most top fighters around WW are capable of beating Judah the guy got beaten by Carlos Baldomir FFS ,Clottey aint even a WC & Cotto is over the hill and Judah stil aint good enough to beat them Iin your opinion LOL

              Aparently u want him to to face lesser oposition in a less competitive division so he can be successfull do me a favour that is called overprotected in my book
              You obviously dont know what you are talking about and have the nerve to put words in my mouth, where in when did I say Cotto was over the hill, hmm I havent mentioned Cotto's name until now. Go Away.

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                #17
                His only chance against Ricky Hatton is an early knockout and that's no chance at all.

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                • feed-the-goat
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Bhopreign
                  Sounds like the same sentiment from all of Europe before he fought Floyd, you mad?
                  right lets look at this realistically. Judah has been beat of cotto, mayweather, Baldomir, Tszu and Spinks. Hatton has been beaten of Mayweather when Mayweather was in his absolute prime and when mayweather had everything going for him in his favour.
                  Now no one has ever got anywhere near beating Hatton at 140, he has totally dominated the division.
                  What on earth makes you think a weight drained Judah who is the most over rated fighter on the planet, who's best wins were against spinks and a young junior Witter (who took the fight at 9 days notice) can knock out Hatton.
                  Yes Hatton struggles against southpaws but judah is no where near as fast as he once was and hatton would just maul him to death
                  Plus Hatton really really wants another crack at Mayweather, personaly I think Mayweather would beat him again but i can't see Hatton letting asnything get in the way of him getting another shot at Floyd
                  Jodah imo has no chance what so ever of beating Hatton

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Bhopreign
                    I respect he will fight anyone also, but that isnt smart, especially in boxing where people view losses as a very monumental thing and tend to forget about you when you do lose. Therefore he should be matched against someone who is credible in which he has a much greater chance to win.
                    for sure. a lot of it is situational though. after his loss to baldomir his back was kinda up against a wall. he HAD fight everyone because the ball was out of his court. i like zabdiel a lot, but it's hard to have good match making (meaning the opponent is credible but beatable, and the fight makes him good money) when you haven't won a big fight since early '05.

                    baldomir was supposed to be a good match up for zab, and look how it turned out. like i said before though, i have to respect someone who consistently faces the best fighters out there regardless of the reasons behind it.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by feed-the-goat
                      right lets look at this realistically. Judah has been beat of cotto, mayweather, Baldomir, Tszu and Spinks. Hatton has been beaten of Mayweather when Mayweather was in his absolute prime and when mayweather had everything going for him in his favour.
                      Now no one has ever got anywhere near beating Hatton at 140, he has totally dominated the division.
                      What on earth makes you think a weight drained Judah who is the most over rated fighter on the planet, who's best wins were against spinks and a young junior Witter (who took the fight at 9 days notice) can knock out Hatton.
                      Yes Hatton struggles against southpaws but judah is no where near as fast as he once was and hatton would just maul him to death
                      Plus Hatton really really wants another crack at Mayweather, personaly I think Mayweather would beat him again but i can't see Hatton letting asnything get in the way of him getting another shot at Floyd
                      Jodah imo has no chance what so ever of beating Hatton
                      I said he would PROBABLY knock Hatton out, it isnt hard to hit Hatton and I know Zab would land and it only takes one punch, so thats why I said probably. Ricky was allowed to hold and hit in his past fights, when he wasnt allowed to do that you saw what happened, the Tsyzu fight was a disgrace, the ref was a disgrace. To say a fighter has no chance at beating someone tells me either you havent been watching boxing a long time or just dont know what youre talking about. Skills usually win but luck sometimes do too.

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