Margarito has been knocked down 3 times in his career

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  • ferocity
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    #91
    Originally posted by vladimir303
    By actually watching his fights, that's how.





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    Are you sure you watched the Mosley/Cotto fight. Because I was sure I saw Cotto still landing some decent shots while backing up. Comparing it to the pure running Oscar did against Tito is just ridiculous.
    Only once have i said, "wow, cotto is a great body puncher" and that was in Cottos early fights.

    Him back pedaling really makes the fight look borring. I got my brother to order the Mosley fight and man was i praying for some action, the room was quit untill Mosley started to fight in the 8th round.

    If Cotto shows he is able to muscle in with Margarito, then the problem will be can he take the shows continuesly. And Cotto is not fast on his feet. And Margarito timing is under rated, once Cotto starts getting hit repeatedly by timed shots by Margarito, he'll be saying wtf. Margarito uses his reach more then he is given credit for.

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    • Vladimir303
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      #92
      Originally posted by ferocity
      Only once have i said, "wow, cotto is a great body puncher" and that was in Cottos early fights.

      Him back pedaling really makes the fight look borring. I got my brother to order the Mosley fight and man was i praying for some action, the room was quit untill Mosley started to fight in the 8th round.

      If Cotto shows he is able to muscle in with Margarito, then the problem will be can he take the shows continuesly. And Cotto is not fast on his feet. And Margarito timing is under rated, once Cotto starts getting hit repeatedly by timed shots by Margarito, he'll be saying wtf. Margarito uses his reach more then he is given credit for.
      I don't know what your criteria is for bodypunching but he has shown it in the Quintana fight. He showed it against Malignaggie. It's part of his arsenal of weapons and he uses it in all of his fights. It doesn't mean scoring bodypunch knockouts fight after fight but using it to chop your opponent down time and time to a TKO. He is the best bodypuncher at 147.
      Last edited by Vladimir303; 05-17-2008, 05:28 AM.

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      • ferocity
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        #93
        Originally posted by vladimir303
        I don't know what your criteria is for bodypunching but he has shown it in the Quintana fight. He showed it against Malignaggie. It's part of his arsenal of weapons and he uses it in all of his fights. It doesn't mean scoring bodypunch knockouts fight after fight but using it to chop your opponent down time and time to a TKO. He is the best bodypuncher at 147.
        Thats only two fights you pointed out. the Quintanna fight who wouldn't hit him in the body when hes litterly giving you the body to hit him there. I don't know, but i know when Cotto was coming up, i thought there were going to work more on his combination to the body and head, I thought he was going to be a great up and down fighter but lately seems like he's in love with his power and his boxing which is sick(as in not good) a power puncher going backwards? why? just don't understand it and sometimes makes for boring fights or semi-boring fighter(see mosley fight)

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          #94
          Originally posted by vladimir303
          Let me remind you again. Margarito got knocked down 3 times, once by a bodyshot. So the above in blue is wishful thinking. Cotto can hurt him just as he can hurt Cotto.

          Oh in case you try to use the Muhamad Ali getting knocked down story again........Ali has defence.....Margarito doesn't.

          True Story.
          And I'll remind you again that he was knocked down when he was young and did not have enough experience, expect for maybe the body shot KD(Which is why I said Cotto would be more effective attacking Tony's body).

          Now you're saying Cotto CAN hurt him, which is what I agree with. You said earlier that Cotto would knock him out based on those kd's, which was laughable.

          And is the Ali comparison that hard to understand? When Ali was getting tagged by Frazier with all those left hooks, he didn't use his defence either. He was hit without going down very often, showing his granite chin. Margarito doesn't need slick Whitaker defense. His chin and style is good enough to take anything on the head.

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          • Vladimir303
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            #95
            Originally posted by Yaman
            And I'll remind you again that he was knocked down when he was young and did not have enough experience, expect for maybe the body shot KD(Which is why I said Cotto would be more effective attacking Tony's body).

            Now you're saying Cotto CAN hurt him, which is what I agree with. You said earlier that Cotto would knock him out based on those kd's, which was laughable.

            And is the Ali comparison that hard to understand? When Ali was getting tagged by Frazier with all those left hooks, he didn't use his defence either. He was hit without going down very often, showing his granite chin. Margarito doesn't need slick Whitaker defense. His chin and style is good enough to take anything on the head.
            And that's where we disagree on. Which is why I a gave you the recent Samuel Peter example. He was known to have a hard chin until McCline checked that.

            I never officially said Cotto was gonna knock him out. I predict a 117-111 type decision in favor of Cotto but I wouldn't be suprised if he got Margarito out of there.

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