Best Fighter P4P in his Prime...!!!

[robjr]

amen amen !!

[Clegg]

China chin? He didn't lose a fight for 15 years, and lost when he went up to Heavyweight, and dropped back weight drained WHILE out of his prime. That **** was impressive, do you think any other fighter can go up to HW like that or dominate like he did all those years?

I'm unsure of the legitimacy of the claim that weight played a part. Sure, losing weight in a short period of time has an effect, but Jones got KO'd more than a year after fighting Ruiz, and he had already come through the first Tarver fight at the same weight without being KO'd.

As for him no longer being in his prime at that point, I agree, but when it comes to his chin I still think there are question marks over it. Some fighters lose their punch resistance because they've taken a lot of hard shots over the years, but Jones never did. I'm sure his age was a factor, but not quite as big a factor as RJJ fans claim.

Hopkins, Toney, McCallum, Hill...enough said, 4 HOF Fighters, 4 Weight champion

Its funny how people love to hate on the best, I'm sure you will give Ali **** for losing to Berbick and Holmes too?

Ali was 38 when he lost to Holmes, and you act like it means nothing. McCallum was 2 weeks away from his 40th birthday when Jones beat him 2 divisions above his best weight, and you act like it means something.

I would love to see you lose 20 pound of muscle some day...

Maybe JJ hasn't, but I have, and I don't think it affects someone's ability to accurately post on the subject either way.

[Don Johnson]

I'm unsure of the legitimacy of the claim that weight played a part. Sure, losing weight in a short period of time has an effect, but Jones got KO'd more than a year after fighting Ruiz, and he had already come through the first Tarver fight at the same weight without being KO'd.

As for him no longer being in his prime at that point, I agree, but when it comes to his chin I still think there are question marks over it. Some fighters lose their punch resistance because they've taken a lot of hard shots over the years, but Jones never did. I'm sure his age was a factor, but not quite as big a factor as RJJ fans claim.



Ali was 38 when he lost to Holmes, and you act like it means nothing. McCallum was 2 weeks away from his 40th birthday when Jones beat him 2 divisions above his best weight, and you act like it means something.



Maybe JJ hasn't, but I have, and I don't think it affects someone's ability to accurately post on the subject either way.

Roy was hurt a couple times in the first tarver fight and burning muscle is very tough and has a lasting effect on the body. I'll give you a direct quote from Arnold Schwarzenegger's fitness books, Arnold's Bodybuilding for Men and Arnold: The Education of a Bodybuilder

[GTL]

I wont pick a single fighter in his prime to beat a Prime Roy Jones, its as simple as that. He would have ****ing toyed with most of them. You bring it...Hagler, Monzon, etc etc.

i agree with you 100 percent.. roy wouldve beaten any1 in this prime.. period..
in my eyes, the best boxer that ever lived.. im glad to have watched and grown up with roy.. its a pleasure..

[THE REED]

wow how much do i love this thread

all you people wait til im finished with my highlight reel...

hint... dmx "whats my name" soundtrack... with "ROY... JONES.... JR..." dubbed over DMX... and punches go with the beat

[tntkid]

I can think of a few fighters that would give Roy a good fight in his prime but defeat him? Well that's a little harder to come up with. Unstoppable in his prime.

[THE REED]

And STILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[CardioMonster]

I dont care what anyone says, Roy would have beaten Robinson, in his prime. Roy Jones was a ****ing beast in his prime and he made good fighters look like ****. Y'all musta forgot...

I think if Ray Robinson injected the contents of his grandma's medicine cabinet into his ass like roy did, it would be a good fight.

[Kilrain]

I dont care what anyone says, Roy would have beaten Robinson, in his prime. Roy Jones was a ****ing beast in his prime and he made good fighters look like ****. Y'all musta forgot...

Ray Robinson would've beat Roy at middleweight.

[THE REED]

Ray Robinson would've beat Roy at middleweight.

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