How can Pavlik be higher than Tarver on the P4P list?

**The Surgeon** · 05-14-2008, 07:43 AM

Err coz he is Undefeated Champion has been KOing people left right and centre and has won outside of his division limit.
Tarver sux!

**Dick-Sucker** · 05-14-2008, 07:47 AM

Last post tonight: but Tarver has everything.

To me hes the best fighter in the LHW division.

P4P is based on skills.

Tarver is 8th on my list.

**Ras44** · 05-14-2008, 07:50 AM

Originally posted by Ultimateboxa

Last post tonight: but Tarver has everything.

To me hes the best fighter in the LHW division.

P4P is based on skills.

Tarver is 8th on my list.

Tarver does have everything, but he should concentrate on boxing and stop the "lifestyle flashy" bs. That's what costed him a defeat against Hopkins.

**Silencers** · 05-14-2008, 08:06 AM

Because Pavlik is the undefeated, undisputed middleweight champion of the world. Beating Miranda and Taylor twice within a one year period.

Tarver had his first significant win against Woods last month since his win over Jones 2 and a half years ago and honestly, I don't think Tarver is the same fighter anymore.

**SkilledB** · 05-14-2008, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by ROBO #1

Err coz he is Undefeated Champion has been KOing people left right and centre and has won outside of his division limit.
Tarver sux!

well im not real sure where i would put him on my P4P list. ide really have to think about it.

**SHB** · 05-14-2008, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by ROBO #1

Err coz he is Undefeated Champion has been KOing people left right and centre and has won outside of his division limit.
Tarver sux!

He won against the same opponent he beat within his weight class.

**tito yuca** · 05-14-2008, 08:21 AM

Pretty much because he beat a guy twice who beat a guy twice that Tarver lost very badly to.

**The Surgeon** · 05-14-2008, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by SkilledBoxer

well im not real sure where i would put him on my P4P list. ide really have to think about it.

He probably aint in my top 10 either, id hav to have a proper think but i rate him higher than Tarver for sure!

**The Surgeon** · 05-14-2008, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by SHB

He won against the same opponent he beat within his weight class.

I know that but he showed he could operate at the higher weight. Even if he hadnt He IS undefeated Twice beating Taylor who twice beat Hopkins who THRASHED Tarver and Ko'd Miranda

How can Pavlik be higher than Tarver on the P4P list?