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  • loui_ludwig
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    #81
    Originally posted by 2501
    how many of us actually thought he could wobble Pac? even i didnt think it was going to happen. Pac won the first fight in my eyes. JMM improved and did much better in the second fight and i had it a draw. the first 2 fights were not similar. why is it that you guys dont want this to happen? why do so many people, not just jmm, DO?
    I want to see a 3rd fight but at the same time i don't want it to happen. The reason is what happens if the result is a close decision that could have gone either way and Pac still getting the decision. Would it re settle it? If Pac beat JMM convincingly, then the haters would say JMM is shot and out of prime.

    And i did not even want to see a rematch with MAB and 3rd fight with EM. Pac could have fought other top 10 fighters.
    Last edited by loui_ludwig; 05-13-2008, 12:43 AM.

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      #82
      Originally posted by 2501
      haha, why do you guys downplay how competitive JMM has been with Pac? so a decision that could had gone any way is really just "givin pac a hard time"? why is it so hard for you guys to admit that JMM practically won that fight just like Pac won that fight? Pac is supposed to be "The Mexican Killer", yet he knocked down JMM 4 times and STILL couldnt get him out of there only to have one of the most disputed decisions this year! and THATS givin Pac a hard time? Katsidis gave Casamayor a hard time, Hanshaw gave Dirrell a hard time, Witter gave Bradley a hard time, but the only difference between those fights and the JMM/Pac fight is that they won those fightsconvincingly by knocking out their opponents, Pac couldnt even do that against JMM let alone convince a MAJORITY that he won. When it comes to decisions that favor Pacquiao, you all say, "THE JUDGES ARE THE ONLY OFFICIAL SCORING SO PAC WON" but the first time, no the judges made a mistake remember? Pacquiao got robbed remember?

      I would bet my whole yearly salary that if JMM would have won the rematch, there would be 10X more "robbed" threads, 10X's more "crying" and 10X's more threads calling JMM a ***** for not giving Pac a rematch. And you know whats ironic about this? It was the Pacquiao camp that gave JMM the ultimatum that if JMM were to win, he would HAVE to give Pac a rematch, but not the other way around.

      What does that say about Pac?
      this will never end! if JMM won I dont think there would be 10x more crying...the thing is the first fight with pacman vs jmm it was judges honest mistake he admitted he made a mistake so team pacman had every right to have a say.

      now JMM went crying to the manila demanding a rematch, spewing how he was robbed, etc, getting heated but it was the judge who saw that fight that way it was scored close just accept it there was no robbery at all.

      Jmm needs to stop crying seriously. It is ok to share your disapproval at the press con but damn thats all the dude was saying I win I win.

      and shut up with that what does that say about pacman?

      heck JMM is avoided for a reason! JMM is a counter puncher! he would give anyone else trouble if he fought the way he did against pacman with anyone else he would put on a boxing lesson.

      I wouldn't wanna fight jmm either it would be technically a bad fight! its not like he fears him pacman just doesn't like that kinda style.
      Last edited by Domain; 05-13-2008, 12:44 AM.

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        #83
        Originally posted by loui_ludwig
        I want to see a 3rd fight but at the same time i don't want it to happen. The reason is what happens if the result is a close decision that could have gone either way and Pac still getting the decision. Would it re settle it? If Pac beat JMM convincingly, then the haters would say JMM is shot and out of prime.

        And i did not even want to see a rematch with MAB and 3rd fight with EM. Pac could have fought other top 10 fighters.
        I dont wanna see a 3rd fight because if Pacman knocks out JMM they will say oh JMM is old! and if JMM beats pacman by knockout or decision they will say pacman is a fraud.
        and if pacman wins a close decision they will cry robbery.

        so either way Pacman loses any way you slice it.

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        • 2501
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          #84
          Originally posted by Domain
          this will never end! if JMM won I dont think there would be 10x more crying...the thing is the first fight with pacman vs jmm it was judges honest mistake he admitted he made a mistake so team pacman had every right to have a say.

          now JMM went crying to the manila demanding a rematch, spewing how he was robbed, etc, getting heated but it was the judge who saw that fight that way it was scored close just accept it there was no robbery at all.

          Jmm needs to stop crying seriously. It is ok to share your disapproval at the press con but damn thats all the dude was saying I win I win.

          and shut up with that what does that say about pacman?

          heck JMM is avoided for a reason! JMM is a counter puncher! he would give anyone else trouble if he fought the way he did against pacman with anyone else he would put on a boxing lesson.

          I wouldn't wanna fight jmm either it would be technically a bad fight! its not like he fears him pacman just doesn't like that kinda style.
          :yawn: sorry domain, you're cool sometimes, but your opinion on Pac/JMM and many other things arent valued. I didnt even read the post. you're cool with me for now though. just calm it on the weird ass threads.

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            #85
            Originally posted by 2501
            :yawn: sorry domain, you're cool sometimes, but your opinion on Pac/JMM and many other things arent valued. I didnt even read the post. you're cool with me for now though. just calm it on the weird ass threads.

            Wow! I am correct, but you just showed you are a jmm nutthugger by not even bother reading what I typed. I am typing an unbiased opinion and fair and to the point.

            read it.

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            • bigdaddysback
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              #86
              JMM won that 2nd fight! PAC is a ***** and is avoiding him just like how Tyson, Holyfield and Bowe avoided Lennox. Anyways PAC is a ***** and needs to fight Nate.

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                #87
                Originally posted by bigdaddysback
                JMM won that 2nd fight! PAC is a ***** and is avoiding him just like how Tyson, Holyfield and Bowe avoided Lennox. Anyways PAC is a ***** and needs to fight Nate.
                Pac will KO Nate in less than 5 rounds just like How Peden Knock out Campbell's Ass... Pac won the second fight.. Marquez kissed the canvas 5 times.. Why would he avoid a fight whom he fought and beat twice and made him kissed the canvas 5 times?

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                • bigdaddysback
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                  #88
                  Hold up when was the last time PAC ko'd some1? Been a while yes? He started at 122, correct? The fatter he gets, less combos and less ko's to his name. PAC is going for the easy option and facing Diaz! People (Filo's) where saying JMM was gona get his arse ko'd - didn't happen! Regardless Nate beats PAC. 5rounds or less LMAO!!!!

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by bigdaddysback
                    Hold up when was the last time PAC ko'd some1? Been a while yes? He started at 122, correct? The fatter he gets, less combos and less ko's to his name. PAC is going for the easy option and facing Diaz! People (Filo's) where saying JMM was gona get his arse ko'd - didn't happen! Regardless Nate beats PAC. 5rounds or less LMAO!!!!
                    Campbell got Knockout by Peden twice with one with just one punch.. Pac will knock him out with one straight left in 2 rounds... I forgot Campbell has already 5 losses and got knock the **** out several times by Robbie Peden. Pac will break his chinny glass.

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                    • v.cassiusali@ya
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                      #90
                      its too early for marquez to cry for pacman. he should survive campbell first.

                      if i were pacman, i will not give marquez another chance because pacman has given him all the chance to beat him but look... he got knocked down three times in their first fight and get knocked down again in the second fight. the world already knew that marquez cannot beat pacquiao, so why fight him again?

                      marquez travelled to the philippines and challenged pacman for a third fight. for me such move was to annoy the filipino champion to agree to a third fight. marquez gets million dollars if pacquiao agree to fight him. marquez lambasting pacquiao is expected, he should vex pacman to agree for a third fight.

                      if i were pacman, i will not give marquez another chance even if jmm will beat campbell, casamayor, or juan diaz this is because manny will never runs out of quality opponents if he survive david diaz.

                      consider pacman fighting hatton or cotto, is that not exciting? another millions of dollars will flow in pac's pocket. certainly, a fight with cotto or hatton is much exciting than a fight with marquez, whom he already beat.

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