Oscar de la hoya vs Maywaether II - good for the sport or bad?

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  • ИATAS
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    #1

    Oscar de la hoya vs Maywaether II - good for the sport or bad?

    I believe this will bring more NEGATIVE attention to the sport then positive. What's your thoughts?
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    Bad for the sport
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    Good for the sport
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    Makes no difference
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    Don't know, don't care
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  • withoutthee88
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    #2
    This can't possibly be bad for the sport. You can obviously argue that this doesn't advance boxing, but it is in no way hurting the sport. "No publicity is bad publicity." Without this fight, boxing would go through another year with no publicity.

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    • Boogie Nights
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      #3
      it depends in what way it's looked at. these 2 names are able to generate big numbers, and whenever you see big cash signs you would think it isnt hurting the sport.
      but it's obvious they dont offer anything to the dance in terms of a potential great event. we saw the first fight, we know how it turned out, there wasnt anything that suggested there should be a rematch. the only reason it's happening is because oscar thinks it should, and mayweather like a loyal dog to its owner nods his head and chases the frisbie.
      floyd doesnt want to be in a real dog fight, he's out there running on the beach, panting, rolling around the sand, just a happy little mother****ing puppy.
      this time the public wants to see 2 dogs go at it. they want mayweather in other fights, like cotto or a margarito. and they want oscar to retire.

      so in terms of a bank account it's a success (although that remains to be seen)in terms of public perception it's a sure failure.

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      • Xyei
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        #4
        I wouldn't say it's bad for the sport, it's just not Mayweather vs. Cotto which is the fight that really should be happening.

        So I will vote bad I guess.

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        • Scott9945
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          #5
          I voted for bad, but thinking about it I should have said makes no difference because in the long run that's ultimately the truth.

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          • WLAD OWNS
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            #6
            It's BAD for the sport, the so called #1 p4p boxer Floyd is giving a rematch to a washed up, past his prime promoter that just got his face ****ed up and fractured by C level fighter Forbes.

            Floyd is a ducker, fraud and a disgrace.

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            • IwatchBoxing
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              #7
              Good for Mayweather, so he can show hes better than De La hoya.

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                #8
                Originally posted by withoutthee88
                This can't possibly be bad for the sport. You can obviously argue that this doesn't advance boxing, but it is in no way hurting the sport. "No publicity is bad publicity." Without this fight, boxing would go through another year with no publicity.
                that only works for movie stars. bad publicity hurts boxing. and when we say, "bad publicity", we arent talking about how mayweather acts like a fool and is arrogant and so forth and so on. that **** does really sell a fight but the problem is the OUTCOME, the FINAL PRODUCT. When the final product doesnt satisfy expectations, it creates doubt and negative experience.

                2.5 million people purchased Mayweather De La Hoya I expecting to see an exciting fight

                And what happened? The fight was average or below. They sold a product that didnt satisfy.

                How many of you go back to restaurants that you didn't like? Mayweather vs. De La Hoya is what the public assumes is the best quality fight that Boxing has to offer because it is the biggest commercial fight there is and when it dissapoints, how does that benefit Boxing? [/b]

                In order for this fight to BENEFIT boxing, it has to meet the expectations the hype sets. The first fight HURT boxing. 2.5 Million people bought a fight to see the biggest fight in years and were disappointed. So then only 800,000 tuned in the see the second biggest fight in Boxing. thats more than 1.2 Million WHO DIDNT TUNE BECAUSE OF THE FIRST FIGHT!

                The only way this fight benefits Boxing is if it is as good as Dawson/Johnson, Vazquez/Marquez, Katsidis/Casamayor, Pacquiao/Marquez because fights of this magnitude shouldnt be technical chessmatches because thats not what the casual fans want to see. WE, as diehard fans, may be ok with technical fights even at this commercial level, but when it comes to BIG MONEY PPV fights, in order to BENEFIT the sport, they have to DRAMATIC, EXCITING WARS.

                How can a fight where the best fighter in the world is fighting someone who even isnt ranked in the top 10 P4P list, he isnt even the best in HIS own division be good for the sport?
                Last edited by 2501; 05-09-2008, 04:31 PM.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by 2501
                  tMayweather vs. De La Hoya is what the public assumes is the best quality fight that Boxing has to offer because it is the biggest commercial fight there is and when it dissapoints, how does that benefit Boxing?
                  This is a good point and something I touched on in a different thread. All we are going to hear from the media will be how unexciting the first fight was and that this is the best the sport has to offer (which is obviously absurd but that is what will be said).

                  Despite all the negative media attention the first fight got (remember all the MMA rules, boxing is dead talk?) this will be even criticized even more, but with less publicity.

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                    Originally posted by natas206
                    This is a good point and something I touched on in a different thread. All we are going to hear from the media will be how unexciting the first fight was and that this is the best the sport has to offer (which is obviously absurd but that is what will be said).

                    Despite all the negative media attention the first fight got (remember all the MMA rules, boxing is dead talk?) this will be even criticized even more, but with less publicity.
                    exactly. Why is only Fieldsology Disciples who understand how Marketing works?

                    Take this video for example. These guys are certainly NOT Boxing experts, but what they ARE certainly the closest example to what a casual fan's mindstate is about Boxing.



                    It's sad isnt it? So many angles, so many story lines, family feuds, cars, bling, millions of dollars are going to be thrown at the casual fan to try to get them to forget about how uneventful the first fight was. HBO, GBP, Money May Promotions are going to work OVERTIME to try to convince people who didn't see the first one that it was competitive and it was exciting, but when it boils down to it, what will be the final product is a fighter who seldom takes chances or risks in the ring anymore and a past his prime fighter who ALREADY lost convincingly to him. Teddy Atlas said it best when talking about this fight..

                    "Barnem and Bailey said, "Theres a sucker born every minute." I hope that isnt the case"

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