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Martin Wade: Why I Want To See Floyd K.T.F.O
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[QUOTE=The Evil Genius;3461883]Thank you.
It's obvious I have a genuine dislike for Floyd.
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I respect your honesty. I hate somebody who pretends to be neutral when giving their opinion on something. I am a floyd fan but as far as all time greats I'll never put him ahead of people that I feel took on all comers.
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Originally posted by Burner View PostDo you know that Floyd has fought better competition then what Cotto is now...gimme a break man.yourself and another thing cotto and tony are the competition not floyd thats why he dont want none....you no my latino brothers fight anyone.. i cant say the same for the runner!!!
Last edited by muppetman; 05-09-2008, 08:03 AM.
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Originally posted by The Evil Genius View Post
Floyd A.K.A. “Money, Pretty Boy, Entrepreneur” Mayweather
Why? I often look at Floyd and think to myself “how did we get here?” when it comes to how he is viewed. A nice looking guy who is the best at what he does would have equated to crossover success 30 years ago. Enter Hip Hop, the morose appeal of the self-absorbed “anti-hero” and the abandonment of boxing by network television. Face it, we consider our little world immune to mainstream culture, some of us are still surprised when a boxer wants to be a rapper. Even Bob Arum points to Floyd's “F Bombs” like a sign that the antichrist is upon us. Allow me to list the reasons why you want to see Mayweather K.T.F.O.
#1. The money he receives (and flaunts) for putting the hottest division on ice for two years. No one knocks fighting Oscar but unlike Oscar and Ray Leonard before him, there’s not even a hint of balancing “Gettin Money” and establishing dominance (and credibility) in your division. Leonard Ellerbee only exasperates you more with his remedial business evaluations of champions like Miguel Cotto. Newsflash: No welterweight will emerge in the next two years as a larger commodity, unless Chavez jr. decides to chop off a leg, Einstein. Floyd, like many modern greats, used to be a fighting champion but that nasty “Pound for Pound” moniker can make a cat real finicky. Add the “slave wages” comment (when boxing fans are getting killed economically) and here you have a recipe for bloodlust.
#2. The way he discredits deserving challengers with twisted logic and his role as poster child for the “L” virus/business model in boxing. Years ago in the boxing business model the L also stood for “learning” and there was little trust in flashy records. But, if you sell tickets like Gatti, Floyd will take the time to pontificate at length about your “L’s” while taking the “easy work.” Talk to him long enough and he’ll convince you nobody deserves to fight him. The welterweight champion is only available to discuss Oscar and all non-welterweights who don’t have an “L.” Oh yeah and you have to be an entrepreneur too, which is code for “get out of your contract with Top Rank, Miguel, and we’ll talk.”
#3. His sick family drama and mainstream 'buffoonery,' (Dancing With the Stars, WWE) that you, desensitized by reality TV can’t seem to turn away from. Call me ancient but I didn’t want to know if Sugar Ray Leonard could “cha cha.” You are tired of the “outside the box” mantra and you can’t wait till someone puts him back inside of it. You don’t resent a guy getting “his” while he can, (neither do I), but you can’t relate to anyone engaging in the ******ed trend of throwing money. And we don’t even want to get into the family dynamic, thank God for Jeff Mayweather. The “classy uncle” is living proof Floyd (Mr. Rude cookout guest) wasn’t brought up by wolves.
#4. His rampant desecration of boxing deity insults your intelligence – hmmm? Avoiding ranked welterweights, yet better than Robinson? The sad thing is Floyd's current discrediting of Leonard is based on Ray still sucking the air out of any room Floyd happens to be in. Instead of “hatin” (like he complains constantly about) Floyd needs to ask himself “will they love me at 50?” It’s not the 7UP commercials, Floyd; it’s because he fought everybody and made Duran and Hearns mainstream names in the process. Face it, you want him clipped and if it happens you’ll sit back and light up a Cuban cigar, (like Tony Soprano), even though you don’t smoke.
Chances of Floyd getting K.T.F.O.? I would say 5% and rising due to several factors.
a) Fighting inferior competition and inactivity catches up to you; at some point Floyd’s elite level internal hard rive will be compromised by being in safety first fights. Fighters need to feel that fear, seeking challenges is what keeps a fighter on point. None of his recent track record prepares him for actually cleaning out the welterweight division, no matter how great he “was” at 130 lbs.
b) Speed kills both ways. Fighters like Floyd and Roy Jones lose speed unlike mere mortals, the increments can’t be measured by the untrained eye but it is there nevertheless. Lesser fighters always catch gifted fighters as they age because the opportunities to hit them increase. What Floyd will lose in the next twenty-four months will leave microseconds of space; the question is who is good enough to fill it with a fist.
c) He’s more stationary- there were parts of Floyd's fight with Hatton that Ricky got close. He just dropped the ball once he got there. Smaller fighters that rely on mobility usually don’t move as much when they get older. Floyd’s 2006 bicycle virtuoso against Carlos Baldomir was two years ago, match that with a mid to late 2009 (or God forbid 2010) bout with Miguel Cotto (underrated mobility and footwork) and, Grand Rapids, you have a problem.
d) Fighters who talk about going out unscathed while still in their prime are cosmically courting getting K.T.F.O. “I’m going to retire from boxing, boxing won’t retire me” sounds eerily like a late 90’s version of Roy Jones Jr. The ones that successfully walk away and stay away never send memos; it never was a dialogue so there’s never a real chance for karma to occur. Boxing ain't called “the hard game” for nothing; therefore these guys don’t have the luxury of projecting themselves into a harmless future.
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