Who was the better Boxer George Foreman or Vitali Klitschko

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  • x3_bazooka_x3
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    #41
    Originally posted by Mike Tyson77
    That's why he lost a UD to Holyfield.
    Vitali would have been owned by that version of Holyfield, infact I think Vitali would have quit against that Evander.
    George amazing as he is was able to got 12 rounds with him. but you might want to watch how you present Klitschko his biggest wins are over bums

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    • Ray  Ray
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      #42
      Originally posted by Thread Stealer
      Are you saying you are not impressed with Vitali's virtual reality resume?

      By the fact that he "could have, would have, should have" beaten Christina Tyrd?

      By the fact that he "could have, would have, should have" beaten Lummox Lewis?

      By the fact that he "could have, would have, should have" beaten Hasim Rahman, Jameel McCline, his brother, his brother's meat, etc...?
      No...I'm not impressed by Vitali's resume' its rather weak and he doesnt have a STAND OUT name on it.

      As you can see by sig...I'm a big Lennox Lewis fan. (he's my favorite fighter) He was getting to Lewis the first 3 to 4 rounds but Lennox was getting into his zone and was landing some bombs on Vitali...Vitali was eating a lot of leather and was on the brink of getting KO'ed IMO.

      Thats the thing that gets me...People act like Vitali is the same fighter he was years ago...He is to injury prone for me..

      So to answer you question? I'm not IMPRESSED with his resume its average IMO...

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        #43
        Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
        I NEVER sad Vitali is an ATG, he never got to reach his full potential because of the injuries he has suffered....Vitali dominated every opponent he faced including your boy Lewis, he has never truly been beaten, his only losses were from INJURIES in fights he was dominating....It's a shame about his injuries, he could've been one of the all time greats...Vitali is definitely capable of beating any heavyweight in history with his combination of size,skill,toughness and power.

        Anyway, I don't know if you're a racist or not, but its kinda disturbing that black folks always bash and hate on the Klitschko's...I know its tough seeing white men dominating the heavyweight division now when you guys used to be on top, but that's just the way it is now and you better get used to it.
        ****...I can say the same about some whites then if thats the case....You really dont understand the TRUE MEANING of racsism then.

        Let me ask you this then...DID you do a survay on why Blacks dont like Vitali??? I seriously doubt you would be able to so stop with all these false accusations about racism...Can I call you racist because you root against my kind (black)

        So stop calling people racist when we dont agree with you on a certain boxer... If you think thats racist then you wouldnt survive a day in my shoes.

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        • Mike Tyson77
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          #44
          Originally posted by x3_bazooka_x3
          Vitali would have been owned by that version of Holyfield, infact I think Vitali would have quit against that Evander.
          George amazing as he is was able to got 12 rounds with him. but you might want to watch how you present Klitschko his biggest wins are over bums

          Vitali would have TKO'd Holyfield in under 8 rounds.

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          • Thread Stealer
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            #45
            Originally posted by Mike Tyson77
            If you talk that way about Vitali, then talk it about Tyson... Their paths are similar....
            No they aren't.

            Tyson beat contender after contender, titlist after titlist, for a good 3 year period in which he was pretty active for a HW champ.

            He basically cleaned out the division, with the exception of Tim Witherspoon who was basically blackballed for going against Don King (some claim Terrible Tim threw the rematch with Smith). He beat the 3 main titleholders AND then beat the linear champion in Spinks. He also beat the guy (Holmes) whom many felt should have been the linear champ, but got robbed in the rematch with Spinks.



            Take a look at the Ring ratings for the end of 1986:
            http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_1986

            Michael Spinks, Champion

            Mike Tyson
            James (Bonecrusher) Smith
            Pinklon Thomas
            Tim Witherspoon
            Tony Tubbs
            Trevor Berbick
            James (Buster) Douglas
            Tony Tucker
            Frank Bruno
            Tyrell Biggs


            Of the other ten guys, Tyson would go on to defeat 7 of them, lose to one, and the other he had already destroyed. That's cleaning house, beating 8 out of the top 10.

            And even after Tyson's ass kicking at the hands of Douglas, he went on to twice defeat a top contender in Ruddock. And after a stretch in prison (where I doubt they had the proper equipment for a world class boxer to train, to keep his timing and reflexes somewhat sharp), he still went out and defeated two world title holders and contenders within a year (roughly).

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            • TheGreatA
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              #46
              Originally posted by Mike Tyson77
              That's why he lost a UD to Holyfield.
              If you did not get the point of my post then you are the one who got truly owned.

              I was talking pre-Ali, had he retired early like Vitali did you and the others would be all over his nuts. Might as well call it the Ibeabuchi/Prime Tyson/Vitali Klitschko syndrome.
              Last edited by TheGreatA; 05-12-2008, 04:32 PM.

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              • Pullcounter
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                #47
                neither of them are very good boxers... I'd pick Foreman cause Vit's technique isn't textbook.

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                • WLAD OWNS
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Ray Lewis Jr
                  ****...I can say the same about some whites then if thats the case....You really dont understand the TRUE MEANING of racsism then.

                  Let me ask you this then...DID you do a survay on why Blacks dont like Vitali??? I seriously doubt you would be able to so stop with all these false accusations about racism...Can I call you racist because you root against my kind (black)

                  So stop calling people racist when we dont agree with you on a certain boxer... If you think thats racist then you wouldnt survive a day in my shoes.
                  I never said you were a racist, but who knows....You could be Malcolm X Jr. for all I know....Anyway, I have a question for you....Why do lots of black folks hate, bash and discredit the Klitschko's??....And don't play dumb with me and pretend you don't notice this.

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                  • x3_bazooka_x3
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Mike Tyson77
                    Vitali would have TKO'd Holyfield in under 8 rounds.
                    I highley doubt that, if Vitali quit against the feather fisted Byrd he would have called the cops on Holyfield.

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                    • Mike Tyson77
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Thread Stealer
                      No they aren't.

                      Tyson beat contender after contender, titlist after titlist, for a good 3 year period in which he was pretty active for a HW champ.

                      He basically cleaned out the division, with the exception of Tim Witherspoon who was basically blackballed for going against Don King (some claim Terrible Tim threw the rematch with Smith). He beat the 3 main titleholders AND then beat the linear champion in Spinks. He also beat the guy (Holmes) whom many felt should have been the linear champ, but got robbed in the rematch with Spinks.



                      Take a look at the Ring ratings for the end of 1986:
                      http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_1986

                      Michael Spinks, Champion

                      Mike Tyson
                      James (Bonecrusher) Smith
                      Pinklon Thomas
                      Tim Witherspoon
                      Tony Tubbs
                      Trevor Berbick
                      James (Buster) Douglas
                      Tony Tucker
                      Frank Bruno
                      Tyrell Biggs


                      Of the other ten guys, Tyson would go on to defeat 7 of them, lose to one, and the other he had already destroyed. That's cleaning house, beating 8 out of the top 10.

                      And even after Tyson's ass kicking at the hands of Douglas, he went on to twice defeat a top contender in Ruddock. And after a stretch in prison (where I doubt they had the proper equipment for a world class boxer to train, to keep his timing and reflexes somewhat sharp), he still went out and defeated two world title holders and contenders within a year (roughly).

                      I agree Tyson was greater, but Vitali still had good things that stood out in his career. Like never geitting knocked down or behind on the scorecards and a 92% KO ratio...that can't be over looked...as well as being a world champ.

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