Mike Oliver got KTFO?

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

I told Gary the day after he lost to Mike-Mike that if it is up to me then we would fight him again and I feel the same way now.

[Mr. Ryan]

right on. i'd like to see that fight, too. i give stark jr. a lot of respect for getting back in there with the guy who put him to sleep, and doing enough to beat him.

Some felt he didn't do enough to win the rematch with Ledesma.

[frankpaganini]

I missed the fight last night, anyone have details? Was he winning or was he struggling all fight? Clean punch or was it a combination of punches and a stoppage?

he got caught with a crushing straight left...

he went down like a sack of potatoes...

he beat the ten count (the ref already said, "9" and he just got up before he got to 10)...

but he was REAL unsteady on his feet...not zab judah chicken dance but he swayed front to back looking like pudding...so the ref stopped it.

he was doing well in the opening two rounds...i scored the first two rounds for him but in the third he got caught with a straight left when he attempted a right hook...

the straight left was just about dead on.

not many fighters could have recovered from such a cleanly landed shot.

[Domey]

I know it's been asked but I haven't seen a response. Is there a video anywhere of this KO? I've searched google and youtube for the past few days since the fight with no luck.

[gazdastrip]

I told Gary the day after he lost to Mike-Mike that if it is up to me then we would fight him again and I feel the same way now.

I was at the club in Boston for the fight. I dont really thing Mike or you are in any batgaining position here. It s almost a "take what you can get and get out" situation for oliver. He got a gift from Stark when they fought and he just got knocked out. i dont really see how his trainer is all of the sudden thinking theyre holding the cards. Im not trying to be a smart alec, just stating an opinion.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

I said: Originally "I told Gary the day after he lost to Mike-Mike that if it is up to me then we would fight him again and I feel the same way now."

Then YOU said...

I was at the club in Boston for the fight. I dont really thing Mike or you are in any batgaining position here. It s almost a "take what you can get and get out" situation for oliver. He got a gift from Stark when they fought and he just got knocked out. i dont really see how his trainer is all of the sudden thinking theyre holding the cards. Im not trying to be a smart alec, just stating an opinion.

I mean...I dont really understand what you are saying...I said that if Stark wants to fight us again we would do it (if it was up to me). Saying that makes me seem as though I think we are holding all the cards?? THAT is what you got out of that statement? Seems to me like you are more or less against me in particular and just LOOKING for something to say

[gazdastrip]

I said: Originally "I told Gary the day after he lost to Mike-Mike that if it is up to me then we would fight him again and I feel the same way now."

Then YOU said...

I mean...I dont really understand what you are saying...I said that if Stark wants to fight us again we would do it (if it was up to me). Saying that makes me seem as though I think we are holding all the cards?? THAT is what you got out of that statement? Seems to me like you are more or less against me in particular and just LOOKING for something to say

I apologize. I misread your statement. I was mighty disappointed in Olivers performance. As I am sure you were. I read what you said wrong. Sorry. No, Iceman, I have no personal issues with you really. I saw you over on the ESPN boxing message board, and am interested in your stuff. I wont be nuthugging you though, like 6 or so other people on here. Forget that stuff. I respect you the same as I respect anyone else.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

[QUOTE=gazdastrip;3503332]I apologize. I misread your statement. I was mighty disappointed in Olivers performance. As I am sure you were. I read what you said wrong. Sorry.QUOTE]

OK, that's cool then. And yes I was EXTREMELY disappointed with Mike-Mike. He is a world class boxer but in that fight his focus seemed to be ABSENT. A lot of hard work that didnt come to the light.

[damian5000]

Ice, you really think Oliver belongs in the ring with Molitor after getting rocked and KO'd in the early rounds as a 10:1 fav? Especially with part of the team telling him exactly what the dude was trying to do? Molitor is far better than this guy that just took Oliver out with ease...

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

I told mike-Mike after the first round that the guy was trying to set him up for the left hand, true, and he got caught with it anyway. But every day is anew day, and what a guy does on the first day isnt always what he will do on the fifth day. Mike has beaten better fighters than the guy we just got stopped by. With that said, I dont feel like Molitor is exactly a superstar in the making or anything like that. I definitely feel with the right focus and everything that Mike-Mike could beat Molitor, ABSOLUTELY. Molitor is doing well, cant take that from him at all, I just dont feel like he is a major threat to the best guys in the world and, in other words, his level isnt so much different than ours.