Is Oscar v. Floyd II still a scam if...

[x3_bazooka_x3]

This sounds like one of those fights that would be rigged so there could be a third.

VERY possible, I mean what was Floyd saying consistantly during their 24/7 series? two things make the world go around, Money and Controversy!! Just remember Floyd is all about the money.
There is bigger money in a third fight with DLH then there is any other fight for Floyd so from a business perspective its in Floyds interest to lose here. Why fight Cotto when you dont have to? when you have DLH who is willing to fight him why take the risk?

[Brother Blues]

I don't know,and I care less....
I will never spend another penny on a fight featuring Oscar the con-man ******....

[-Hyperion-]

obviously not....im crossing fingers for it to happen...then de la ko's coto and retires

[niceguy45]

i agree...

Oscar v. Floyd isnt going to be like Diaz v. Diaz was...

its going to be a tactical boxing match...not brawl...boxing match.

Its like the guy on this local bay area radio station was saying after the first fight, "this fight was garbage; where's the standing 8 counts; the blood; the multiple knockdowns; etc."...

so i called the station (they mainly cover baseball and basketball and that idiot has no business talking boxing) and said, "this was floyd v. ocsar we just seen, two very smart tactical boxers, you cant expect to see a brawl with two fighters of that caliber AND in a fight so huge they want to play it safe"...

he basically hung up on me and said, "you got suckered; you dont know anything about boxing; you dont know what you're talking about" etc. etc. etc.

but i DO know what im talking about...this is two of the best of their time in there with each other...each knows how great the other is...does anyone REALLY expect them to just go toe to toe in the center of the ring and throw caution to the wind? i sure dont...

i really liked the first fight...a lot...(to be perfectly honest)...

and this rematch is definately warranted in my opinion; oscar fought him closer than anyone else...that doesnt deserve a rematch?

sure i'd like to see him fight cotto or maragrio; ie. a real prime welterweight. however oscar is 35/36 and he's getting older; he cant wait until floyd fights 3-4 welterweights and then have the rematch...however a miguel cotto or margarito can wait for just one fight and i think the fans can too.

oscar looks to have his stamina back and floyd sr in his corner...it could be highly beneficial to him. or not...who knows...


thats why september 20th we will see two of this generations' best in there again and i been waiting to see the rematch since may 5th of last year when the fight was over.

if dlh beats floyd by KO is not a scam...i don't think floyd would let oscar outbox him, i doubt that

[AllEyesOpen]

oscar beats floyd?


it seems as if many (not all but certainly a fair amount) of fans think its a ripoff because floyd will win a fight against simply a "name" out of his prime instead of a true welter.

teddy atlas kind of made a similar point of WNF saying he felt oscar v. forbes was an attempt to say oscar will be just as impressive against floyd (hyping the fight and forbes too much)...

so if oscar wins the rematch is it still a scam?

Simply based on the poor performance against Forbes, I see no way of DLH beating Floyd. Forbes is a good fighter and he proved it but not even close to PBF and if DLH would have at least blown him out the water i'd have given him a chance. Mayweather's gonna make oscar look even worse this time around.

[x3_bazooka_x3]

Simply based on the poor performance against Forbes, I see no way of DLH beating Floyd. Forbes is a good fighter and he proved it but not even close to PBF and if DLH would have at least blown him out the water i'd have given him a chance. Mayweather's gonna make oscar look even worse this time around.

Obviously Mayweather thinks highley of Forbes he hired him as a sparring partner. I dont think you can judge the out come of the rematch based on Oscar dominating Forbes Honestly you just cant, but I sure hope Floyd is thinking along the lines that you are.

[Welter_Skelter]

oscar beats floyd?


it seems as if many (not all but certainly a fair amount) of fans think its a ripoff because floyd will win a fight against simply a "name" out of his prime instead of a true welter.

teddy atlas kind of made a similar point of WNF saying he felt oscar v. forbes was an attempt to say oscar will be just as impressive against floyd (hyping the fight and forbes too much)...

so if oscar wins the rematch is it still a scam?

Well it would set up a Rubber match wouldn't it?... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Mizzou]

If you think it will be a "scam" than simply don't purchase it. That way you eliminate any chance of being "scammed".

[Scott9945]

If you think it will be a "scam" than simply don't purchase it. That way you eliminate any chance of being "scammed".

That's my plan.

[frankpaganini]

If you think it will be a "scam" than simply don't purchase it. That way you eliminate any chance of being "scammed".

i dont think its a scam but many do...

so i was just questioning if people would STILL view it that way if oscar won...



and in response to other's posts (instead of posting 5 messages in a row to quote everyone):

You CANT base the forbes v. de la hoya fight outcome to how oscar would do in the rematch against floyd.

No matter who wins i think it will be similar to last time; a clost split decision...

No one is going to blow anyone away...they are both too talented/smart.

Its a chess match...plain and simple...

I say oscar does have a legitimate chance considering:

A) the first fight (it was close; closest floyd has ever been to losing)...look at my scorecard...a draw.

B) Oscar's stamina/endurance looks much better than it did a year ago (forget that it was against forbes; the level of compeition usually doesnt play a significant role in your stamina; if you tire out, you tire out...forbes punched MORE than floyd and oscar punched MORE against forbes than he did against floyd and still didnt tire out...i think floyd sr has helped in his training)

C) Floyd sr is in his corner...he's not the best trainer...but for this fight (being that its against floyd who helped mold into the fighter he is today from a young age; basically setting the foundation of what floyd is in the ring) i say floyd sr is probably oscar's best choice for a trainer.

D) Mayweather with (i think) the longest layoff in his pro career...it could conspire against him...he could come in looking slow, or his timing could be off and may take him a few rounds to get it straightened out...and those few rounds it takes could be won by oscar and possibly determine the outcome of the fight.

so yeah...oscar definately has a chance...

other than age oscar has just about everything on his side that he can have to be successful against mayweather...


if oscar won at it forced a 3rd fight do you think that would out-do the numbers of the first fight or be even in the same neighborhood?

i dont think so but i think it comes close to the heavyweight record from tyson v. holyfield...