Trinidad Sr, Bonilla Analyze De La Hoya-Mayweather

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Nacho what the hell r u talking about?!?!?!? Oscars style?? what style??? the man is done!!! he was done along time ago! i am a oscar fan and respect him a lot but he is done! give it up. even againts Vargas he got hit too much and the fight was close on points and that was years ago. He is not the oscar that faught tito, ike, and pernell. Have you ever even seen margo or cotto tired in the ring? Margo has no boxing ability but he can punch and in bunches. oscar just doesnt have the skill or stamina to out box him. Now cotto lmao cotto would seriously hurt him i wont even bother with that 1. I hear people talk about quintana like hes a b class fighter. Then again im sure i was the only one to bet real money on him to beat williams. Quintana is the champ and only lost to cotto. He might be the best welter behind cotto and gayweather. Now after he beats williams if he fights clottey and wins it will be a fight between him and cotto at the end of next year for all the belts.

I agree with you that Quintana is 3 behind Cotto and Mayweather right now! I think Quintana can beat anyone at WW including Cotto and Mayweather!

[mike25nz]

nacho honestly ur dumb as a bag of rocks. Yeah his wife is gonna say no hunny turned down millions and millions of dollar and dont fight cotto. what r u ******ed. If his wife was that worried and lacked that much confidence that he couldnt beat cotto even tho they split the 1st 4. im sure she would atleast say ok hun just dont take a beating. Now on u calling me ignorant dont just call me names explain to me how im wrong. explain to me what makes ur oscar so great right now

[NachoMan]

nacho honestly ur dumb as a bag of rocks. Yeah his wife is gonna say no hunny turned down millions and millions of dollar and dont fight cotto. what r u ******ed. If his wife was that worried and lacked that much confidence that he couldnt beat cotto even tho they split the 1st 4. im sure she would atleast say ok hun just dont take a beating. Now on u calling me ignorant dont just call me names explain to me how im wrong. explain to me what makes ur oscar so great right now

Did you read my previous posts? I thought I made it fairly clear what I thought about ODLH vs Margarito and Cotto. I didn't think I needed to explain my response about Quintana, but here goes. Quintana is a good boxer, no doubt there, but he is not on the Oscar's level;not ten years ago and not today. Oscar has better balance than Quintana and because of it throws better in combination and with more power. Though he may be slower than he was several years ago, Oscar hasn't slowed that much, so Quintana wouldn't have significantly faster hands or feet. Oscar is taller, has a better jab and has better chin. I'll bet you believe that Quintana would be able to slip Oscar's jab and land wild overhand lefts all night long as he did against Williams. You don't realize that Paul Williams is an overhyped amateur with no boxing ability whatsoever. I was impressed with Quintana's guts and his ability to overcome such a wide height and reach disadvantage against Williams, but that doesn't delude me into thinking that he could do the same against a real pro like Oscar. Oscar is better than Quintana in pretty much every category. They won't ever fight, but if they did, it would be a wide decision for ODLH, not much different from the Forbes fight.

btw, you might be a sadist, but Quintana's family doesn't need to see that twice. Cotto v. Quintana II would not be competitive.

[NachoMan]

I agree with you that Quintana is 3 behind Cotto and Mayweather right now! I think Quintana can beat anyone at WW including Cotto and Mayweather!

Really?

[pugil1st]

To the untrained eye (like those of the HBO crew) DLH looked great but so did Hatton against Castillo. Remember that great body shot? But to those of us who know and follow boxing without the benefit of a paycheck, DLH wasn't that impressive. He got hit a lot and don't think for a second that Floyd is going to take as many shots as Forbes. Nobody taught Forbes how to counter-punch and that's Floyd's specialty. Look for Mayweather to be offensive as well with that lead right and body punches to the solar plex. Floyd will control the tempo, not Oscar like in the Forbes fight, and this will frustrate him again causing him to loose that jab. Floyd will also get in Oscars head again making references to him dressing in women's panties. Of course Oscar always has a chance as long as he has that left hook, but it's unlikely that he will change the fight with it.

[ArachTinilith]

I think Cotto is way too versatile and smart to lose to Margarito. I can see Cotto beating Margarito in about five different ways. In years past I had my doubts about Cotto, but I really think he is the goods now. He has really developed into a great fighter. I imagine that a lot of Margarito fans would point to his high pressure style and Cotto's supposedly weak chin to argue in favor of their man, but I really don't see Margarito beating Cotto. He just has too many tools IMO.

I totaly agree. I do see Cotto beating Margarito just because his style. The guy can box, can switch to Southpaw, and everyone knows he can put a lot of pressure. And oh yeah, those body punches.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Really?

yeah men I actually have seen both traning over here at PR. And even do Cotto could easily rollover Quintana, Quintana can outbox him to. Quintana is very underrated. When he fought Cotto, he dont want to say it, but he was sick as hell. But being the man he is he does not want to use that as an excuse. Hopefully after he beats Williams again, he gets the winner of Judah-Mosley, so he can prove his greatness. Or even a Margarito after the Cotto fight. Im telling you men Quintana is the real deal, but since his exposure havent been that good he is not that well known. But after he beats williams and maybe Judah or Mosley. You will see how good he is!

[aztecadq]

I wonder how impressive Cotto would have looked against a fast and slippery Forbes. I bet you Cotto would not have knocked out forbes and would have not looked as Great as he did when he fought Alfonso Gomez. Let's face it Top Rank picked Alfonso Gomez for Miguel Cotto using the same intentions De La Hoya did when he fought Forbes. De La Hoya did not care how much he got hit against Forbes because he wanted to fight a straight up fight. It was a little disappointing that De La Hoya didn't knock out Forbes, however it looked like Oscar of the old when he used his lightning jab, fought on his toes and fought with his heart. De La Hoya vs. Mayweather should be exciting and different.

[Piper the Great]

lol man your funny. Duh fighters get hit but not when your fighting someone who shouldnt even be in the ring with you. Forbes is much smaller and not as skilled to even have been in the ring so AGAIN. oscar face should not have been as beat it. Was gotta face beat up againts gomez? NO Y? was mayweather face beat up againts gatti or baldimir? was quintanas face beat up againts williams? NO quintana, cotto, and margo would have killed forbes in that ring. If forbes landed that many shots and blocked that many shots what do you think gayweather is gonna do? Give it up Oscar is done he was done yeeaaarrrsss ago. Now its all about money

exactly & yall need to stop making excuses for that ****ty performance (he didnt train& whatever else yall throw out there). the only thing i got from this fight is DLH need to call it quits. this is one of those times when PBF come out & make a what has he done to deserve a fight statments (we all know thats not going to happen).

[mike25nz]

glad to see someone on here knows boxing. YES nacho quintana is that good. Puerto rico is the boxing capitol of the world and 9 out of 10 reporters in puerto rico had quintana beating cotto for a reason. A fighter can win a fight close or by KO but when you can clearly outclass and out box a fighter like quintana does thats something that most fighters dont have. He did it againts joel julio and williams. I dont see him beating cotto simply because of mental edge. Besides someone tell me how do you beat cotto? I never even seen him really lose rounds in a fight. Not 3 out of four of 4 in a row like he did againts judah mosley and everyone else. BTW Paulie is a very good boxer you will see when he beats hatton