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  • randy johnson
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    I have a question to ask about De la Hoya

    Why is he considered great?Is it because he is mexican and they pretty much took out country from us?It 200 years for my blacks to get freedom and they get it by just running over the border.But anyway most people feel he lost to Whitaker,Quartey,Trinidad and Felix Sturm so once you take those names of his record what world class fighter in their prime did he beat?Can you name one because i sure can't.Most of his so called great wins were over other hispanics but when ever he fights a good white or black fighter he loses but yet gets so much credit for it.
    You see how nobody critizes De La Hoya for fighting a bum in Forbes and still make a boring fight of it?If a white or black fighter has a dull fight against a bum they get ripped.Do you remember for years people critized Winky Wright for fighting a so called dull style and the man wasn't giving credit?It took him years and years to finally get accepted and still doesnt get the praise De la Hoya gets.
    And its not just De La Hoya either.Junior Jones beat Barrera 2 times but if you ask most people who was the best fighter i bet you they will say Barrera.Manny Pacquio became a superstar for beating Barrera years after Jones beat him and again Jones never got that kind of respect.
    Have you noticed this too when watching fighters....how you see white americans boing black fighters and cheering hispanic or latino fighters?Come on i know this country is falling apart but how you can you boo your own people to cheer somebody else people?I know i may get banned because in this country you can't say anything about any race who decides to run across the border,float here or come here some other way to get over on us.But freedom to speak your mind just doesnt apply to them.
    If you are going to praise people like De La Hoya for basically losing to all the top fighters he fights then how about praise some more white and black fighters who actually win their fights .
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    Originally posted by randy johnson
    Why is he considered great?Is it because he is mexican and they pretty much took out country from us?It 200 years for my blacks to get freedom and they get it by just running over the border.But anyway most people feel he lost to Whitaker,Quartey,Trinidad and Felix Sturm so once you take those names of his record what world class fighter in their prime did he beat?Can you name one because i sure can't.Most of his so called great wins were over other hispanics but when ever he fights a good white or black fighter he loses but yet gets so much credit for it.
    You see how nobody critizes De La Hoya for fighting a bum in Forbes and still make a boring fight of it?If a white or black fighter has a dull fight against a bum they get ripped.Do you remember for years people critized Winky Wright for fighting a so called dull style and the man wasn't giving credit?It took him years and years to finally get accepted and still doesnt get the praise De la Hoya gets.
    And its not just De La Hoya either.Junior Jones beat Barrera 2 times but if you ask most people who was the best fighter i bet you they will say Barrera.Manny Pacquio became a superstar for beating Barrera years after Jones beat him and again Jones never got that kind of respect.
    Have you noticed this too when watching fighters....how you see white americans boing black fighters and cheering hispanic or latino fighters?Come on i know this country is falling apart but how you can you boo your own people to cheer somebody else people?I know i may get banned because in this country you can't say anything about any race who decides to run across the border,float here or come here some other way to get over on us.But freedom to speak your mind just doesnt apply to them.
    If you are going to praise people like De La Hoya for basically losing to all the top fighters he fights then how about praise some more white and black fighters who actually win their fights .




    Forbes is not a bum.I felt Delahoya won the fight with Trinidad.Delahoya has a win over Genero Hernandez.His fights with Pernell,and Quartey was very close fights that could have went either way.



    Even though he loss 5 times,2 of them were controversial and he`s never been dominated with the exception of the fight with Floyd in my opinion.



    Sure alot of Delahoya wins was`nt clear cut but look at the opposition hes fought?He should get props for that alone.

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    • Silencers
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      #3
      Because he fought the best fighters, he won some and he lost some, that's the way it is.

      And Forbes isn't a bum.

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      • flodistheshizle
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        Another note boxing is a very tribal sport.So alot of people are going to be bias towards thier own kind and bias against boxers thats not their kind.


        For example if Mayweather were Puerto Rican do you really think Puerto Rican
        would be bad mouthing him like that?They`ll propably say hes the greatest fighter that ever lived.

        I noticed its mostly black Puerto Ricans that tend to like him when it comes to PR people.I think because they feel a connection to him because of skin color,and also in PR your treated like a second class citizen if your black.

        Its the same is PBF was any other race.That particular race would not bash him generally.

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        • spanishdred
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          i see what your saying but its not a racial issue... first he is a gold medal winner and he is charismatic and all people friendly like example sugar ray leonard no one ever talks about how roberto duran whooped him in there first meeting sugar ray and oscar are much alike trust me not a race thing... and as far as the comment with floyd and oscar you don't fight a cerebal fighter like him like when he fought castillo the first one was close and the second time was a blow out...he is too smart for that

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          • muppetman
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            #6
            Originally posted by randy johnson
            Why is he considered great?Is it because he is mexican and they pretty much took out country from us?It 200 years for my blacks to get freedom and they get it by just running over the border.But anyway most people feel he lost to Whitaker,Quartey,Trinidad and Felix Sturm so once you take those names of his record what world class fighter in their prime did he beat?Can you name one because i sure can't.Most of his so called great wins were over other hispanics but when ever he fights a good white or black fighter he loses but yet gets so much credit for it.
            You see how nobody critizes De La Hoya for fighting a bum in Forbes and still make a boring fight of it?If a white or black fighter has a dull fight against a bum they get ripped.Do you remember for years people critized Winky Wright for fighting a so called dull style and the man wasn't giving credit?It took him years and years to finally get accepted and still doesnt get the praise De la Hoya gets.
            And its not just De La Hoya either.Junior Jones beat Barrera 2 times but if you ask most people who was the best fighter i bet you they will say Barrera.Manny Pacquio became a superstar for beating Barrera years after Jones beat him and again Jones never got that kind of respect.
            Have you noticed this too when watching fighters....how you see white americans boing black fighters and cheering hispanic or latino fighters?Come on i know this country is falling apart but how you can you boo your own people to cheer somebody else people?I know i may get banned because in this country you can't say anything about any race who decides to run across the border,float here or come here some other way to get over on us.But freedom to speak your mind just doesnt apply to them.
            If you are going to praise people like De La Hoya for basically losing to all the top fighters he fights then how about praise some more white and black fighters who actually win their fights .
            mexicans get their freedom by fighting we are a fighting race its in our culture that is the indian in us the warrior at heart......when your ppl were ****** my ppl were kicking ass and taking names when they try to take our land we fought back we would rather die like men than live on our knees ....i just feel so bad that your ppl did not fight back till so much later in history.....cuz alota blacks are so big and strong and dont take **** from no one!!

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            • Gato2012
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              #7
              Yea its cause hes mexican........

              dumb ****. Your post just made you sound like an angry ignorant fool

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              • Flawless
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                #8
                Originally posted by muppetman
                mexicans get their freedom by fighting we are a fighting race its in our culture that is the indian in us the warrior at heart......when your ppl were ****** my ppl were kicking ass and taking names when they try to take our land we fought back we would rather die like men than live on our knees ....i just feel so bad that your ppl did not fight back till so much later in history.....cuz alota blacks are so big and strong and dont take **** from no one!!
                First of all. How can you fight back when you don't have weapons. Whites had guns and black man had spears who would win. Second, Did you know Black tribal leaders gave other black people away to whites. Learn your history first. Why are mexicans call themselves great warriors. I would love to see the mexican army in Iraq. I would love to see how long mexican army would last in Vietnam. Wouldn't survive for a second. If mexicans fought so hard for their rights. Why are so many mexicans running towads American.

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                • flodistheshizle
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by muppetman
                  mexicans get their freedom by fighting we are a fighting race its in our culture that is the indian in us the warrior at heart......when your ppl were ****** my ppl were kicking ass and taking names when they try to take our land we fought back we would rather die like men than live on our knees ....i just feel so bad that your ppl did not fight back till so much later in history.....cuz alota blacks are so big and strong and dont take **** from no one!!



                  You have to understand that the europeans were really smart.They created division between the tribes and had the tribes fighting against each other so they would`nt unite against the europeans.
                  And that made alot of africans kidnap each other and trade some of them to europeans for guns to fight the other tribes.That was the plan by europeans all along.


                  And alot Euros was kidnapping Africans also and Africans did put up a fight even on the slave ships,and when they got to america.But the europeans had superior artillery.

                  In America alot of africans escape and the native americans took them in took care of them and let them marry in to their tribes.The native americans found out that African culture is very similiar to african culture.They did`nt beleive in economic competition unlike their Europeans counterparts.They made sure every body in the tribe was fed and they share everything.

                  The Africans would help Native Americans fight the white man.They showed
                  the native Americans how to create traps.

                  Alot of those traps that you see in movies like you fall in to a hole thats hidden and theres spikes in it originated in Africa.And various other traps that you see in movies.

                  around ten percent of the white fighters was Africans

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                  • msagrain
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                    #10
                    watch every one on DLH's fight and come back and see if you think different.

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