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  • ElGranLuchador
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    #11
    Originally posted by BMWM3P
    In Cotto's case he's pretty much a complete different fighter than in Ndou fight, he was also fighting at 140 which took a lot out of him. In the Mosley fight, when he was backing up on last few rounds he was also getting the better of Mosley.

    In Margarito vs Clottey we say what a good boxer puncher can do against Margarito. Clottey was blowing Margarito away and he would have kept doing the same, it he hadn't broken his hand. Margarito was able to withand the early punishment from Clottey, but if he takes the same kind of punishment from Cotto ít's going to be lights out for him.

    The difference between Mosley and Margarito is that Margarito will not be able to hit Cotto as much as Mosley did. Margarito will take huge damage while inflicting verry little of his own. Cotto's going to stand for spots then move away, turn southpaw for while and confuse Margarito. Cotto is going to pummel him, his face will be a mess and his body basically destroyed. I just don't see this being a good fight for Margarito at all.
    lol margarito aint gonna get cut neither his body is gonna be destroyed
    at the most cotto willl manage to slow him down but tony its not gonna get koed
    just look at the shots he took from cintron who according to boxing scene is the hardest puncher on the welterweight division
    he didnt even feel the punches and just kept pressing forward

    these is how i see the fight playing out:

    the first rounds marg will start slow and dont go all out cotto is gona use his jab to keep margarito at a distance on those rounds eventually margarito is gonna land a good punch and its gonna start throwing those wild uppercuts
    2 things can happen here:

    if cotto here tries to counter hes gonna get overwhelmed because margarito will keep throwing no matter what cotto connects and thats the chance margarito has to score a ko if he catches cotto against the ropes

    if cotto clinches and goes backward and keeps using his jab and landing the usual combination he will get the decision

    u know what u get when u fight margarito a pressure fighter who keeps coming forward no matter what u throw at him and can ko u easily if he overwhelms u against the ropes
    now cotto power will not be a factor on this fight his speed is because if he uses it right hes gonna have a huge advantage over the slow margarito

    the interrogant on the fight its whats gonna happen when margarito gets close to cotto will he try to counter and be overwhelmed or will he use his advantage in speed to make margarito miss?

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    • BMWM3P
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      #12
      Just the like the way he stopped Clottey, wait he never did stop Clottey he got lucky and won a decision. It's funny that you think Margarito can't be knocked out, everyone can and Cotto's going to be the man to do it. I've been watching Cotto's career since the very begining and Margarito is way over his head.

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      • ElGranLuchador
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        #13
        Originally posted by BMWM3P
        Just the like the way he stopped Clottey, wait he never did stop Clottey he got lucky and won a decision. It's funny that you think Margarito can't be knocked out, everyone can and Cotto's going to be the man to do it. I've been watching Cotto's career since the very begining and Margarito is way over his head.
        cotto power wasnt even a factor on the mosley fight i guess u predicted ko for cotto on that occasion as well
        margarito chin is better than mosley and cotto couldnt even knockdown or put mosley in troubles cotto also landed those "sledge hammerbody shots" on that fight and they didnt had any effect at all

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          #14
          Originally posted by ElGranLuchador
          cotto power wasnt even a factor on the mosley fight i guess u predicted ko for cotto on that occasion as well
          margarito chin is better than mosley and cotto couldnt even knockdown or put mosley in troubles cotto also landed those "sledge hammerbody shots" on that fight and they didnt had any effect at all
          Margarito is going to get hit a hell of lot more than what Mosley did. And with much harder shots Margarito and Mosley are not in the same level.

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          • Pullcounter
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            #15
            this fight is only a toss u if cotto wants to trade punches with margarito. I doubt cotto does that and instead will employ movement and strategy and outbox margarito for 12 rounds. the scores will be lopsided like 8 rounds to 4 or 9 rounds to 3 for Cotto.

            In rounds 10 to 12, Cotto will put on his tracks shoes ala the mosley fight.

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            • trips420
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              #16
              Originally posted by BMWM3P
              In Cotto's case he's pretty much a complete different fighter than in Ndou fight, he was also fighting at 140 which took a lot out of him. In the Mosley fight, when he was backing up on last few rounds he was also getting the better of Mosley.

              In Margarito vs Clottey we say what a good boxer puncher can do against Margarito. Clottey was blowing Margarito away and he would have kept doing the same, it he hadn't broken his hand. Margarito was able to withand the early punishment from Clottey, but if he takes the same kind of punishment from Cotto ít's going to be lights out for him.

              The difference between Mosley and Margarito is that Margarito will not be able to hit Cotto as much as Mosley did. Margarito will take huge damage while inflicting verry little of his own. Cotto's going to stand for spots then move away, turn southpaw for while and confuse Margarito. Cotto is going to pummel him, his face will be a mess and his body basically destroyed. I just don't see this being a good fight for Margarito at all.
              Cotto will take damage and Tony will get to him i believe.The only thing is in which half of the fight.He can box Tony silly for the first 6 but hes going to wear himself out with the amount of movement that would take to get away from Tonys pressure.Then the last 6 rounds you got a fatigued Cotto and a Margarito with alot of gas in the tank because he hasnt been able to throw much and then the punishment will begin.Or Cotto can fight him and box a little like he normally does and try to inflict some damage to slow Tony in the laters rounds but hes going to take some risk and damage doing so.The more Cotto hammers on the inside the better his chances of making it through the later rounds but he cant just stand in there.Cotto has to mix it up and box effective but come in side and try and do enough body work to save himself in the later rounds.I see Cotto taking it to Toney the first 6 then Tony putting it on Cotto after 6.I favor Cotto if it goes 12 but i think Toney has the better chance of a ko win.

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              • ElGranLuchador
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                #17
                Originally posted by BMWM3P
                Margarito is going to get hit a hell of lot more than what Mosley did. And with much harder shots Margarito and Mosley are not in the same level.
                depends on what mosley i think margarito can give a better performance than the one mosley did against cotto in his prime mosley wouldnt have ate all those jabs by cotto
                and yes its true margarito its easier to hit but cotto its gonna fight more defensively cuz margarito its a much offensive fighter
                margarito has about a one on ten chance of getting koed if cintron couldnt even harm margarito in their match what makes u think cotto can?
                u implying cotto punches harder than cintron?

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                • SicarioVDL
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ElGranLuchador
                  depends on what mosley i think margarito can give a better performance than the one mosley did against cotto in his prime mosley wouldnt have ate all those jabs by cotto
                  and yes its true margarito its easier to hit but cotto its gonna fight more defensively cuz margarito its a much offensive fighter
                  margarito has about a one on ten chance of getting koed if cintron couldnt even harm margarito in their match what makes u think cotto can?
                  u implying cotto punches harder than cintron?
                  Cotto is 100 times better than Cintron is!!!! Cotto is a bigger puncher and way smarter than Cintron is...... matter fact Cotto is a smarter boxer than Margarito is...you can talk all you want but when fight night comes u'll be eating all the ****t you be talking bout Cotto

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by trips420
                    Now that i think about the way Cotto fought last fight and what his game plan will be this fight i might change my mind about Margaritos right hand being more effective but i still think Cotto's body shots are his best weapon in this fight.I think he needs to go to work on the body to save himself from getting rolled over late.If Cotto doesn't linger on the inside then that right hand of Tonys will be his best weapon.
                    It's either a chopping one on the back/side of the head (We saw Cotto get flustured as hell with the chopping shots Corley threw) or the long extending right hand that You'd see Kyvelos absorbing in the first round of his fight against Tony himself. Thudding lead type punches.

                    I'll compromise here:

                    Yeah the left to the body of Cotto's should be key also.



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                      #20
                      **** I can't believe this fight is happening.

                      It's exactly like being 8 years old and waking up on Christmas Morning.

                      I can't remember (outside of getting *****) when I felt like this.



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