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  • Vladimir303
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    #41
    Originally posted by Naps
    P4P means hypothetically, who has the best skills if they were all the same weight. You have it wrong mate.
    That's how it used to be originally when Sugar Ray Robinson started the whole thing. Now it's a ranking system based on accomlishments.

    Not just skills but what you do with your skills.

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    • tyson
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      #42
      Oldtimers > newtimers

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      • Diego Morales
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        #43
        Disagree:

        1)Manny Pacquiao
        2)Floyd Mayweather
        3)Joe Calzaghe
        4)Isreal Vazquez
        5)Miguel Cotto
        6)Juan Manuel Marquez
        7)Rafeal Marquez
        8)Kelly Pavlik
        9)Ivan Calderon
        10)Cristian Mijares

        Only thing I could even think about changing is maybe Klitschko ahead of Mijares and possibly Calderon but for right now the heavyweight division ain't **** to me and I STILL can't get over the Lamon Brewster KNOCKOUT!!!!

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        • VERSION1 (V1)
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          #44
          WLADIMIR KLITHSCHKO is not p4p anything

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          • Run
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            #45
            Originally posted by Naps
            P4P means hypothetically, who has the best skills if they were all the same weight. You have it wrong mate.
            No, no it doesn't.

            The term "Pound for Pound" was invented when a discussion arose about Sugar Ray Robinson's chances as a Heavyweight.

            "How would he fare at heavyweight".



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            • Run
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              #46
              Originally posted by vladimir303
              That's how it used to be originally when Sugar Ray Robinson started the whole thing. Now it's a ranking system based on accomlishments.

              Not just skills but what you do with your skills.
              Yes it was put into place because of Ray Robinson.

              But not "How would they fare at any weight".

              It's "How would Ray fare at Heavyweight". The supreme weight.



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              • Run
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                #47
                Also guys it doesn't make sense to back track and match bigger guys up with smaller ones regardless of any type of "scale".

                lol bigger guys are just more dangerous fighters.



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                • Greatness=Floyd
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                  #48
                  1. Money
                  2. Bernard Hopkins
                  3. Manny Pacquiao
                  4. Joe Calzaghe (I guess)
                  5. Israel Vazquez
                  6. Miguel Cotto
                  7. Juan Manuel Marquez (whatever)
                  8. Paul Williams
                  9. Jermaine Taylor
                  10. Ricky Hatton

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                  • Jambo boy
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by RunW/Knives
                    No, no it doesn't.

                    The term "Pound for Pound" was invented when a discussion arose about Sugar Ray Robinson's chances as a Heavyweight.

                    "How would he fare at heavyweight".
                    Then why is it not called "How would he fare at heavyweight"?

                    The term Pound for Pound would suggest you are looking for the BEST boxer pound for pound!

                    It's not hard mate, anyone can be on the list regardless of weight, we're looking for the skills/styles.

                    You weightist, lol.

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                    • Mike Tyson77
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Chunk


                      Stop it!!!

                      Wlad is the Heavyweight champ, something Gay Haye will never be.

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