DAN RAFAEL: "FLOYD MAYWEATHER is a JOKE!"

[C'MONMANG']

yea, yea, yea, I heard it all before, YA DIIIGGG?

"He's a joke...he's a FRAUD..blah, blah,"...if everyone doesn't like the guy, WHY is everyone continuing to talk about the dude? I don't get it....

cuz its all true ,

[GMitchell]

who the ****'s dan rafael?

[mECHsLAVE]

He made a very good point. The really impressive wins people want to see from him are against other top welterweights. Not junior welters, welters coming off losses, and junior middles who are a decade past their prime (DLH) and who still nearly beat him.

Mayweather has been a genius about picking and choosing his fights, picking the right weight to fight at, and artfully tiptoeing around the really tough guys at his weight. He's an impressive fighter, and beating Hatton was very impressive, even with the whole Cortez thing and Hatton obviously fighting above his weight limit. But for the performance he put on against a very slowed down DLH, I don't think there's any question a prime DLH from 10 years ago would handle Mayweather fairly easily.

If Mayweather doesn't fight the winner of Cotto-Margarito, then his stock drops dramatically, and diehard boxing fans and boxing journalists are going to really take another hard look at his record (what Rafael is already starting to do) and find they may not be as impressed at they thought they were.

It's the old Jones-Michalczewski thing. Jones would've beaten Dariusz, I feel, but he just didn't want to fight him. He wanted to fight easier fights where he could make the same or more money. Floyd will beat Cotto if they fight, but Floyd knows how hard of a fight it could be, same with Margarito, so he's opting to try and avoid both of them, and that's why he's avoided Margarito for years now.

The largest part of being a successful fighter is picking and choosing who to fight, believe it or not. Roy was a master of it for years, building his record and pocketbook but depriving the fans of the fights they really wanted to see and the tests they wanted to see if he could pass. And Floyd seems to be falling into that groove...

[x3_bazooka_x3]

Ok, he didnt DIRECTLY say that, but he did say this...

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"Mayweather, who says he is already the best fighter ever, can't be serious. Yes, he faced De La Hoya at junior middleweight and junior welterweight champ Ricky Hatton moved up to welterweight to fight him, but Mayweather has not fought the best guys in his own welterweight division, which happens to be the deepest in boxing. Take a look at the ESPN.com divisional rankings that I update each week. Of today's top 10 welterweights (Mayweather is No. 1), he has only faced one of the other nine guys, a win against Zab Judah. No. 2 Cotto, on the other hand, arrived at welterweight a full year after Mayweather but has already beaten three of today's top 10: Shane Mosley, Carlos Quintana and Judah, and he is scheduled to face a fourth, Antonio Margarito, in July."

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All facts and i completely agree. I was surprised to read this from a fella who is constantly supporting Mayweather and will refuse to change Mayweathers position on the p4p charts until the day he dies.

Exactly!! like I said after the De La Hoya fight, if Floyd still goes through with a Hatton rematch, his P4P rating and his #1 rating at WW should drop, Cotto has fought three of the top Welters and is moving on to #4

[bsrizpac]

No doubt. That's the best way to put it that he's a smug prick.

Dan Rafeal is a tool. He is consistently wrong in his scoring of fights. I mean pick a fight and check out this tools scores. And I don't mean close fights that are subjective like Hopkins vs. Calzaghe, but clear cut fights.

He ALWAYS criticizes great fighters and hypes up bums. Look at his fight predictions, almost always wrong. In addition the KISS fandom and being a smug prick does in fact make him a tool.

[Gato2012]

Horrible comparison. A ***** in an acne commercial needs clear skin in order to convince the potential buyers that the product works.

A boxing writer's job is to analyze fighters and give his opinion on THEM. Since he is not a fighter, he does not need to be in shape. Does a film critic need to be a good actor? Does an art critic need to be a good painter? Of course not.

I happen to like the comparison.

I dont like him. I cant respect him when he says things like that. Thats like a ***ing movie critic with lazy eyes and a mole on her forehead saying Jessica Alba looked bad. Its there job but it just makes them look ****** to ME. Thats MY opinion.

[x3_bazooka_x3]

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[QUISQUEYA]

Those are excellent points by Dan the Man. But he has to ask himself if Shane at 147 is a better win than Oscar at 154. Maybe. But not by much. Or if Quintana would be more dangerous to Floyd than Hatton was. Probably not.

Dan is a guy that I like and respect A TON...but he seems a bit too fixated on weight class. I dunno if FMJ sees himself as belonging to any single weight class.

You cats may remember that there was some discussion about holding Mayweather-Hatton at 140, even.

[QUISQUEYA]

Mayweather has been a genius about picking and choosing his fights, picking the right weight to fight at, and artfully tiptoeing around the really tough guys at his weight. He's an impressive fighter, and beating Hatton was very impressive, even with the whole Cortez thing and Hatton obviously fighting above his weight limit. But for the performance he put on against a very slowed down DLH, I don't think there's any question a prime DLH from 10 years ago would handle Mayweather fairly easily.
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If Hatton was fighting above his best weight, wasn't Floyd ALSO fighting above his?

[Mike06j770]

i agree with the fat ****