margarito-cotto should be for the ring magazine world championship

[warp1432]

That's such a weak arguement. Baldomir was the champion at the time and was Quintana ranked by the ring at the time Cotto fought him? If he was (which I'm sure he was) then he probably wasn't the top 5.

Cotto has a great resume no doubt about that, but so does Mayweather and just because Ricky was moving up does not mean that doesn't count as a title defense. It does and Ricky was still a great fighter. So was Oscar.

It's not like Mayweather was fighting the Henry Brussles and the Bobby Pacquiao's of the world when Cotto was beating Mosley and Judah. He was fighting top guys.

It's just NOW that he has to fight her.

[DiegoFuego]

these two men have defeated many of the top 10 fighters in the welterweight division and they have both proven they are at the top of the welterweight class. there fight should be to determine who is the real welterweight champion of the world. i know mayweather has the belt but he dont fight no true welterweights. he has been running scared of all the top welterweight fighters. he has not even defended the title against any fighter ranked in the top 10 of the welterweights. mayweather should be stripped and the winner of margarito-cotto should receive the belt.

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[sunny31]

you should have to fight at least one top 10 welterweight ever year to hold that belt. what is doing is a slap in the face to boxings history. and margarito should be higher ranked than mosley since mosley ducked him.

That's such a weak arguement. Baldomir was the champion at the time and was Quintana ranked by the ring at the time Cotto fought him? If he was (which I'm sure he was) then he probably wasn't the top 5.

Cotto has a great resume no doubt about that, but so does Mayweather and just because Ricky was moving up does not mean that doesn't count as a title defense. It does and Ricky was still a great fighter. So was Oscar.

It's not like Mayweather was fighting the Henry Brussles and the Bobby Pacquiao's of the world when Cotto was beating Mosley and Judah. He was fighting top guys.

It's just NOW that he has to fight her.

You make some good sense but they apply to floyd retaining his pound 4 pound status no doubt, this thread is about him at welter and he hasn't fought a welter since baldomir 2006, and you can call baldomir the linear champ if you want, because that was his title, but we all know he was and is a cinderella man, who wouldv probably lost decisions to most of the top 10 back then and now

[Ras44]

You make some good sense but they apply to floyd retaining his pound 4 pound status no doubt, this thread is about him at welter and he hasn't fought a welter since baldomir 2006, and you can call baldomir the linear champ if you want, because that was his title, but we all know he was and is a cinderella man, who wouldv probably lost decisions to most of the top 10 back then and now

It has to apply to his P4P status, since if he can't even rule his weight class, you logically can't say that he's the P4P best. In order to be the P4P best, you have to be the best at your weight class, at the very least.

[sentido común]

Your not the only one who feels this way, it seems everyone gets it apart from floyd fans, dan rafael from espn has even mentioned it and summed it up perfectly

"How goofy is this: Here we have Floyd Mayweather Jr. , the No. 1 boxer in the sport in his prime, refusing to entertain the notion of a match with Miguel Cotto. Mayweather won't even speak the name of the Puerto Rican star, much less consider fighting him. If you bring Cotto up to Mayweather, all you get is a lot of excuses. Yet, Oscar De La Hoya, who is 35 and says he is fighting three more times before retiring (Saturday against Steve Forbes, on Sept. 20 in a rematch with Mayweather and then a finale in December) said recently that he will strongly consider Cotto as his farewell opponent. De La Hoya won't go down as the best fighter ever, but one thing you can never take away from him is that he fought everybody and he seems willing to do that right to the end, even when he doesn't have to.

Mayweather, who says he is already the best fighter ever, can't be serious. Yes, he faced De La Hoya at junior middleweight and junior welterweight champ Ricky Hatton moved up to welterweight to fight him, but Mayweather has not fought the best guys in his own welterweight division, which happens to be the deepest in boxing. Take a look at the ESPN.com divisional rankings that I update each week. Of today's top 10 welterweights (Mayweather is No. 1), he has only faced one of the other nine guys, a win against Zab Judah. No. 2 Cotto, on the other hand, arrived at welterweight a full year after Mayweather but has already beaten three of today's top 10: Shane Mosley, Carlos Quintana and Judah, and he is scheduled to face a fourth, Antonio Margarito, in July."

this is just plain and basic common sense.

[warp1432]

But Ricky Hatton counted as a Welterweight champion defense because Ricky Hatton was a Welterweight. He had 8 weeks to get used to the weight and even came in at a little lighter to keep some of his speed. Ricky only had 3 weeks to get used to 147.

If Ricky had beaten Floyd he would be the current Welterweight champion of the world would he not? Ricky was also the number 1 contender (lol I know) by the WBC, so he can't be stripped by that either.

[sentido común]

But Ricky Hatton counted as a Welterweight champion defense because Ricky Hatton was a Welterweight. He had 8 weeks to get used to the weight and even came in at a little lighter to keep some of his speed. Ricky only had 3 weeks to get used to 147.

If Ricky had beaten Floyd he would be the current Welterweight champion of the world would he not? Ricky was also the number 1 contender (lol I know) by the WBC, so he can't be stripped by that either.

he wasnt a RANKED welterweight. anybody who is under 147 can be a welterweight but if he aint ranked hes not a worthy title defense. and sometimes ring will rank a fighter who never fought in the division like they did castillo when he went to 140. they did not rank hatton because there is to much talent that is better than him in the welterweight division.

[warp1432]

No not true. They didn't rank Mayweather at 154 when he was moving up to fight De La Hoya. Mayweather sure as hell belonged in the top 10 of the Jr.Middleweight division.

Ricky Hatton belonged in the top 10 in the welterweight division. Also, Jose Luis Castillo had previous fights at 140 before being ranked by The Ring. Nice try though.

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[Ras44]

Right now Hatton is ranked number 1 at 140, which makes me laugh. I hope by divine intervention I see Hatton in a ring against Ricardo Torres.