Calzaghe was NOT in his prime between 2002 and 2004

[slicksouthpaw16]

he ll be 37 in march

I still don't see where he is past his best. Fighters that are past their prime doesn't handily beat 28 year old multiple super middleweight champions.

[RichCCFC]

The Salem fight was during his divorce, I'll use a quote from him "If I fought Jeff Lacy on the night I fought Salem I would have lost, that's how much it effected me, my mind wasn't on the fight and didn't train for it properly."

[Steak]

Calzaghe's prime was between Eubank and Mitchell (up to 2003).

Since then he's never had an early KO. He had 19 KOs in the first two rounds up to that time...

There's a difference in Calzaghe from Veit I (KO 1) and Veit II.

you have to take into account WHO he fought to get those 1st round KOs though. off the top of my head, the only meaningful early KOs he got were over Mitchell(pretty impressive), Veit and Sobot? other than that, I cant remember anyone that great. Cause its kind of deal with Tyrone Brunson, I think he set the record for consecutive 1st round KOs, but hes fought absolute bums.

either way, I dont think early KOs necessarily tells you when a fighters prime is

[S A M U R A I]

I agree with this, Veit had fought nothing but bums leading up to the first fight with Calzaghe. Veit was still nothing amazing, but more experienced of a fighter in the second fight.

the most hilarious thing was the commentary in that fight. he seemed amazed that Veit made it out of the first round, haha. I think it was that Europsort bloke. that guy is just hilarious, ahahhaa

http://youtube.com/watch?v=o6wrFKb-6sQ

listen to this bastard, ahahah! best commentary ever! for those who get Eurosport, could you tell me if he still does commentary for them?

Yeah, wasn't Veit 30-0 for the first, then 45-1 or something for the second? I'm not sure of the exact figures without checking Boxrec but it was something like that. Indeed, he was more experienced a further 15 fights into his career. He still hasn't lost to any except Calzaghe, I believe.

Joe had a £10,000 bet on himself the second fight to KO Veit in the first round again, apparently,



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[Steak]

The Salem fight was during his divorce, I'll use a quote from him "If I fought Jeff Lacy on the night I fought Salem I would have lost, that's how much it effected me, my mind wasn't on the fight and didn't train for it properly."

ah ok, that makes sense then. Im sure divorces can be troubling.

[THE REED]

LOL... ok... roy was NOT in his prime between 2004 - 2005





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[Steak]

Yeah, wasn't Veit 30-0 for the first, then 45-1 or something for the second? I'm not sure of the exact figures without checking Boxrec but it was something like that. Indeed, he was more experienced a further 15 fights into his career. He still hasn't lost to any except Calzaghe, I believe.

Joe had a £10,000 bet on himself the second fight to KO Veit in the first round again, apparently,

not sure, all I remember was that Veit in the second fight was coming off a win over Charles Brewer, although the commentary were saying Brewer was a little past his best. still was by far the biggest win over Veit's career, unless Im forgetting someone.

and I guess he had gotten over the divorce pretty quick then if he was making bets like that, hehe

[abadger]

Hes not even past his prime now, hes only 35 and hasn't been in any wars with anyone. Believe it or not, hes actually better now then when he was in his prime because his boxing skills has picked up.

He's not in his prime anymore. He can't punch hard for one thing. Improved in other areas though.

[S A M U R A I]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=o6wrFKb-6sQ

listen to this bastard, ahahah! best commentary ever! for those who get Eurosport, could you tell me if he still does commentary for them?

Oh man, I love this guy!

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[slicksouthpaw16]

He's not in his prime anymore. He can't punch hard for one thing. Improved in other areas though.

Does losing your punch make you automatically past your best? Thats the only thing that has went down, and thats because his hand are fragile. Not because hes old or anything. He has not showed any signs of slowing down or any wear and tear. His boxing skills are a lot better now then when he was fighting back in the early 90s- early 2000s. The brave Calzaghe that punched harder back then would have probably lost to Lacy and Kessler because his foot speed wasn't as good back then and he relied more on his punching power. Now he is more of a slick boxer that throws volume punches, back then he was a boxer puncher that was more vulnerable.