Ruslan Chagaev vs David Haye

[slicksouthpaw16]

I am a big Haye fan, but Chagaev stops him or UDs him easy I beleive. Chagaev has a great chin, fantastic technique, excellent timing, good speed and very under-rated power. Haye has a poor defence and was stopped against a senior citizen (Carl Thompson), dropped and hurt BIG TIME against a super middleweight (Lolenga Mock), dropped by Mormeck, hurt and cut by Maccarinelli, cut by Fraggomeni. None of those fighters (except perhaps Mormeck) are as good as Chagaev. I have never seen Chagaev hurt, and he has beat Felix Savon, John Ruiz, Nikolai Valuev and Virchis.

Chagaev wins easy.

And its no myth, Haye has a bad defence and makes very ****** basic errors. But he sure can ****, so who knows what happens if he lands.

He wasn't hurt by Maccarinelli. He was off balance and Maccarinelli's elbow cut him over the eye. You could see it in the replays and Haye said himself after the fight.

[beez721]

Haye is a skillful boxer himself and him not landing any punches is a mis understatement. He will get there and when he does, i will like to see how he would react to Haye's powerful punches. Every fighter gets hit in every fight and honestly, Haye has every advantage except for natural size. Hes faster, punches harder, taller, and in my opinion hes the better out boxer as well.

youre assuming haye is a huge puncher at heavyweight. he's not going to be a huge puncher at heavy and he will not punch as hard as even chageav in the division. thats just common sense. just because haye is taller doesnt make him bigger and stronger than chageav. chageav is thicker and bigger boned than haye. just look at haye's neck and head. he's clearly going to be a small heavyweight. also,,,,haye is absolutely not a better boxer than chageav. chageav is a much more complete fighter than haye. also a better counter puncher and defensive fighter. haye is more exciting,,,but thats not going to get him by chageav. chageav beats haye easily in my opinion

[beez721]

Virches is a straight up European fighter and most likely the slowest of them all. He was being out worked by Robert Hawkins of all people, who is the division's stepping stone for the young fighters. Using him as an example is completely irrelevant, especially since Haye is most likely going to be the fastest heavyweight since he is coming up from cruiser weight.

virchis is slow and can be out worked but he also has enormously heavy hands. he's one of the only heavies that was able to stop hawkins and he made hawkins go down like he was shot with a gun

[beez721]

Haye is faster and consideribly more powerful, Chagaev cannot take Haye's shots for 12 rounds, and he is a boxer, but is not overly elusive.
He will get hit and get hurt.

lol,,,,wtf? are we forgetting chageav isnt a cruiserweight? its haye thats going to be in serious danger of getting knocked out,, not the strong chinned chageav

[duffgun]

youre assuming haye is a huge puncher at heavyweight. he's not going to be a huge puncher at heavy and he will not punch as hard as even chageav in the division. thats just common sense. just because haye is taller doesnt make him bigger and stronger than chageav. chageav is thicker and bigger boned than haye. just look at haye's neck and head. he's clearly going to be a small heavyweight. also,,,,haye is absolutely not a better boxer than chageav. chageav is a much more complete fighter than haye. also a better counter puncher and defensive fighter. haye is more exciting,,,but thats not going to get him by chageav. chageav beats haye easily in my opinion

Maybe Haye's power will be less at Heavyweight but before you guys moan at him we got to see what he has to offer, Some small heavyweights like Dempsey and Patterson were able to knockout big guys we realy need to wait and see.

[aussieboxer2320]

Everyone keeps talking about Wlad vs Haye...Let's talk about how The Gaymaker would fare against other top heavyweights like WBA title holder Ruslan Chagaev.

Chagaev is a very tough matchup for Haye...Chagaev has one of the best chins in the heavyweight division, he has never been down, never seen him hurt...He is undefeated champion as a pro and he had a great amatuer career...Chagaev is a great counterpuncher, he's technically sound, has good power and is tough as nails.

I think Chagaev would KO Haye and expose him badly, Haye has **** defence, he keeps his left hand too low and Chagaev would take advantage of that...I see Chagaev outboxing and knocking out the weak chinned Haye with a hard straight left hand.

Chagaev by KO.

y dont u go suck wlads **** already u keep makin posts and threads about haye bein **** cos ur scared cos u know wlad is guna get his face dented in by haye, its just pathetic

[KESSLER]

y dont u go suck wlads **** already u keep makin posts and threads about haye bein **** cos ur scared cos u know wlad is guna get his face dented in by haye, its just pathetic

Hahaha..!!!

Klitschko is gonna knock hiss ass OUT! Klitschko by brutal KO.

[squealpiggy]

HW is a different ball game from CW, I can't choose Haye over someone like Chagaev without seeing him at least in 1 fight in HW.

Tomasz Bonin may not be a world beater but that's Haye's first performance at the weight.

David Haye moving to heavyweight is the best thing to happen to "WLAD OWNS" because it means he can stop making absurd topics about Wladimir beating legendary fighters like Frazier, Ali and Foreman and start making absurd topics about a current black heavyweight.

Bear in mind it's no coincidence that one of the fighters in this discussion is white while the other one is black. "WLAD OWNS" never bothered making a topic about how Wlad would beat Chagaev because it's less about being fans of individual fighters and more about backing up his "race". The only white fighters "WLAD OWNS" doesn't like are ones that lost to black fighters.

[Johnny Rebel]

Maybe Haye's power will be less at Heavyweight but before you guys moan at him we got to see what he has to offer, Some small heavyweights like Dempsey and Patterson were able to knockout big guys we realy need to wait and see.

That would be ideal but since Haye publicly called out The Champion Klitschko, it's opened himself up to the criticism. Him saying that Wlad is ducking him by fighting "2 bums" didn't help. Wlad is not going to give up his 2 titles when he's getting closer to unifying the division to fight a CW making his first real fight at HW.

I'd like to see Haye fight 2 of the top ten fighters he called "bums" and if he's successful then Wlad can fight him as a optional next year. Even better would be for Haye to challenge a champion that can fight him right now and then he will no doubt get an immediate shot at Wlad should he win.

[duffgun]

That would be ideal but since Haye publicly called out The Champion Klitschko, it's opened himself up to the criticism. Him saying that Wlad is ducking him by fighting "2 bums" didn't help. Wlad is not going to give up his 2 titles when he's getting closer to unifying the division to fight a CW making his first real fight at HW.

I'd like to see Haye fight 2 of the top ten fighters he called "bums" and if he's successful then Wlad can fight him as a optional next year. Even better would be for Haye to challenge a champion that can fight him right now and then he will no doubt get an immediate shot at Wlad should he win.

god this is ****** its so obvious that was a publicity stunt, anyway if you listen carefully Haye actually said he was gonna have two fights first.