Travis Walker Recovering, Looks To Peter

[Jim Jeffries]

He's a guy whose first fight was against a hambone who had 9 losses-NO WINS in his career. Of his 27-1 record, I think about 17 were against guys with less than 50% records. Most of them a LOT less. His Best opponent seems to have been marcus Rhode, whose record was 29-26.

So we have CARLISLE'S word for it that he's a Klitschko killer. Personally, I need a lot more than that!!

Wasn't Walker the guy knocked out in 15 seconds by a prison guard? (Or cop, I forget.)

[ringsidemike]

Peter is no match for Travis. I have trained at Main Boxing and have seen him beat down the top ranked Heavyweights one after the other. Travis is the reason why Vitali Klitchko retired. Travis was the one who knocked him to his butt in sparring with a body shot while training for the Rahman fight. Thats the real Vitali was hurt in his prep for that fight and subsequently retired. If he appears "uninspired" by journey men its only because he's bored but against better competition he wrecks them. Both Klitchkos and Ibragimov have been beat down in sparring. Thats why they are calling out only those who havent sparred with him (Peter and Rahman). Theres going to be a new champion. No question.

The story of Travis knocking down Vitali in sparring which caused his knee injury is true. Does it mean he can beat Peter, certainly not. But Walker does have world class power and can KO anyone in the division.

Walker is a converted football player and began his career later than most. He's still developing his jab and boxing skills, hence he's been matched easily to make up for his lack of amateur pedigree.

For his previous two fights, he sparred with Sultan Ibagrimov and Tony Thompson. So, I'd agree he's had world class sparring. Some of the sparring session with Tony the Tiger was posted here on this website.

[Carlisle]

Travis body shot dropped Vitali not leg entanglement

First of all Travis is already signed by Dan Goosen. Secondly, there was no entanglement of legs it was a body shot that viciously dropped Vitali during sparring.

It's a well known fact that the supposed KD of Vitali Klitschko was a canard spread about by Don King and Rahman, to reinforce their Propaganda that K was afraid to fight Rahman, both to boost Rahman's faltering reputation, and to allow Rahman a claim on the full WBC Title.

Walker may have been the prelim fighter with whom Vitali Klitschko entangled his legs, thus causing the fall which broke his interior knee cartilage. I don't know. But, since such an entanglement and fall can happen to anyone, there'd be no special significance in this.

If the Klitschkos were the hugely successful businessmen that they obviously are, they'd have immediately signed Walker to their Promo Co., or tied him up contractually in some way..... Why leave him loose out there, to become a real menace. If he was dangerous to Vitali, he'd be equally dangerous to Wladimir, maybe even more so........Just my opinion.

[Carlisle]

Don't hate that you get info after the press has edited it.

Heres more news for you kid. His shoulder didn't come out of socket as reported it was a minor dislocation w/o tear. Thankfully he had his seat belt on when the SUV rolled. His wrist is sore but getting better by the day. MRI is scheduled for Saturday. He will take 2 weeks off then be back in the gym. Currently in negotiations with Samuel Peter for a fight in July. The Peter camp is expecting it to be an easy fight. Don't hate that you get info after the press has edited it.

He's a guy whose first fight was against a hambone who had 9 losses-NO WINS in his career. Of his 27-1 record, I think about 17 were against guys with less than 50% records. Most of them a LOT less. His Best opponent seems to have been marcus Rhode, whose record was 29-26.

So we have CARLISLE'S word for it that he's a Klitschko killer. Personally, I need a lot more than that!!

[Carlisle]

Both Klitchkos and Ibragimov.

CARLISLE- You'd be doing us all a favour if you told us the names of the "top ranking heavyweights" whom you've seen being beaten down by Walker. Do they ALL train at that one gym"?? I am not trying to be sceptical, but at least, clear up any difference there may be between your assesment of what makes a top heavyweight, and mine.

One thing I don't understand which you can clear up........are these "gym fights' or are they just sparring. because gym fights may have a little more rrealism, but sparring is just PRACTISING certain movements, feints, attacks, defences, ripostes, footwork, head movements, etc. In sparring, no one is intended to be hurt, but to be carrying out previously shown movement, or to pin down a trainer-perceived flaw, with a view to correction.

[edgarg]

The story of Travis knocking down Vitali in sparring which caused his knee injury is true. Does it mean he can beat Peter, certainly not. But Walker does have world class power and can KO anyone in the division.

Walker is a converted football player and began his career later than most. He's still developing his jab and boxing skills, hence he's been matched easily to make up for his lack of amateur pedigree.

For his previous two fights, he sparred with Sultan Ibagrimov and Tony Thompson. So, I'd agree he's had world class sparring. Some of the sparring session with Tony the Tiger was posted here on this website.

MIKE- Thanks for the info. But falling because of tangled legs and snapping his major leg stabilizing ligament, is a far cry from being knocked down and snapping it, causing retirement.........

As I recall, it was the cruciate anterior ligament, plus multiple tears in the other ligaments and meniscus. So it was a very serious injury. I think he eventually got a ligament transplant, although not certain of this. It was medically suggested, I'm sure.

THE CAUSE is usually because the foot is planted, immobile, and held, and the body falls. This does not relate to being knocked down, unless the guy stood on his foot at the same time and pushed. His leg obviously became entangled and he fell because of it. ALSO.......this is what Klitschko actually said.

And he is by far, with his brother, the most believable boxer on the planet.

The serious leg injury I recall offhand, is when Tokunbo Olajide was fighting El Diamante Mendoza (who was about twice his size). Mendoza stepped on Olajide's foot and hit him at the same time. Olajide, distracted by the foot, couldn't avoid the punch, which he otherwise would have. He went down, and on immediately trying to get up, couldn't move. He'd broken his ankle. Mind, Olajide weighed 154, and Klitschko 250.

[Carlisle]

I know T and his trainer but here are some accurate accounts from "News Sources" as you call them.
"That fight never came to be, as the sparring partners reportedly gave Klitschko all he could handle and more, and the sessions came to an end when Walker dropped the Russian giant with a body shot. Several days later, Klitschko announced his retirement." -http://www.goossentutor.com/pages/athelets/walker.html

Thursday Nov. 11, 2005: "Walker hit him with a body shot. It was a left hook to the body, and it knocked Klitschko down." -
"I really dont want to talk about that," said Walker. "I feel whats done in the gym should stay in the gym." -saddo boxing website

IKE- Thanks for the info. But falling because of tangled legs and snapping his major leg stabilizing ligament, is a far cry from being knocked down and snapping it, causing retirement.........

As I recall, it was the cruciate anterior ligament, plus multiple tears in the other ligaments and meniscus. So it was a very serious injury. I think he eventually got a ligament transplant, although not certain of this. It was medically suggested, I'm sure.

THE CAUSE is usually because the foot is planted, immobile, and held, and the body falls. This does not relate to being knocked down, unless the guy stood on his foot at the same time and pushed. His leg obviously became entangled and he fell because of it. ALSO.......this is what Klitschko actually said.

And he is by far, with his brother, the most believable boxer on the planet.

The serious leg injury I recall offhand, is when Tokunbo Olajide was fighting El Diamante Mendoza (who was about twice his size). Mendoza stepped on Olajide's foot and hit him at the same time. Olajide, distracted by the foot, couldn't avoid the punch, which he otherwise would have. He went down, and on immediately trying to get up, couldn't move. He'd broken his ankle. Mind, Olajide weighed 154, and Klitschko 250.[/QUOTE]

[edgarg]

First of all Travis is already signed by Dan Goosen. Secondly, there was no entanglement of legs it was a body shot that viciously dropped Vitali during sparring.

CARLISLE- It's easy to assert and glorify...it's difficult to come up with facts when they are elusive. Klitschko and all associated with him, have said that he had never been off his feet from a punch .....

His kickboxing loss was because his own corner stopped the fight, due to Klitschko disobeying orders not to use his injured right hand. So it became a TKO. His opponent chalked up his most famous victory

I've looked inot it a little further. there was an "article" (actually a PR Blurb for 2 of their fighters who were just then due to fight) by SHOWTIME (that alone should make one su****ious). SHOWTIME (but neither Walker nor Butler) claims that it was RAPHAEL BUTLER who knocked Klitschko down, and " he twisted his knee".... Since they would have been using padded headgear then, this is VERY dubious.

Also a supposed "eyewitness" says that it was in a completely diffent gym, and a different day............... an not only THAT, but Butler was staggering Klitschko in normal sparring.....So where are we????.....I'm not sure, I'm getting a little giddy from being whirled round and around...........

It was all published on Boxingscene on March 30th. 2007. Including 4 pages of "comments". Enjoy..............

[edgarg]

I know T and his trainer but here are some accurate accounts from "News Sources" as you call them.
"That fight never came to be, as the sparring partners reportedly gave Klitschko all he could handle and more, and the sessions came to an end when Walker dropped the Russian giant with a body shot. Several days later, Klitschko announced his retirement." -http://www.goossentutor.com/pages/athelets/walker.html

Thursday Nov. 11, 2005: "Walker hit him with a body shot. It was a left hook to the body, and it knocked Klitschko down." -
"I really dont want to talk about that," said Walker. "I feel whats done in the gym should stay in the gym." -saddo boxing website

IKE- Thanks for the info. But falling because of tangled legs and snapping his major leg stabilizing ligament, is a far cry from being knocked down and snapping it, causing retirement.........

As I recall, it was the cruciate anterior ligament, plus multiple tears in the other ligaments and meniscus. So it was a very serious injury. I think he eventually got a ligament transplant, although not certain of this. It was medically suggested, I'm sure.

THE CAUSE is usually because the foot is planted, immobile, and held, and the body falls. This does not relate to being knocked down, unless the guy stood on his foot at the same time and pushed. His leg obviously became entangled and he fell because of it. ALSO.......this is what Klitschko actually said.

And he is by far, with his brother, the most believable boxer on the planet.

The serious leg injury I recall offhand, is when Tokunbo Olajide was fighting El Diamante Mendoza (who was about twice his size). Mendoza stepped on Olajide's foot and hit him at the same time. Olajide, distracted by the foot, couldn't avoid the punch, which he otherwise would have. He went down, and on immediately trying to get up, couldn't move. He'd broken his ankle. Mind, Olajide weighed 154, and Klitschko 250.

[/QUOTE]
Thanks CARLISLE- you are really banking your career on this eh?? As I've just posted look up Boxingscene. Neither of the 2 fighters actually claimed to have committed the heroic deed....with Klitshko in HEADGEAR, this would have made ANY fighter's reputation for LIFE.....I wonder why they didn't and HAVEN'T claimed this since??
DeVarryl Williamson was in the camp and sparred with klitchko only the day before. (which is when Butler was supposed to have done the foul deed)

HE's never mentioned it. And if anyone would have known....HE WOULD.!!

All the claims have been made by what Joe Goosen "heard" or some unmentioned "believed" or whatever.

When Tyson was KD'd in by Greg Paige in sparring, they had a video of it. Where's the Klitschko video?? And in boxing history, there have often been reports of champions KD'd in training. It could not be covered up. Too many people around and involved, if such a thing had ever really happened.

But if you can produce actual authentic, unfalsified proof, I'd be delighted to read and/or see it. I'm no snob.

[edgarg]

I know T and his trainer but here are some accurate accounts from "News Sources" as you call them.
"That fight never came to be, as the sparring partners reportedly gave Klitschko all he could handle and more, and the sessions came to an end when Walker dropped the Russian giant with a body shot. Several days later, Klitschko announced his retirement." -http://www.goossentutor.com/pages/athelets/walker.html

Thursday Nov. 11, 2005: "Walker hit him with a body shot. It was a left hook to the body, and it knocked Klitschko down." -
"I really dont want to talk about that," said Walker. "I feel whats done in the gym should stay in the gym." -saddo boxing website

IKE- Thanks for the info. But falling because of tangled legs and snapping his major leg stabilizing ligament, is a far cry from being knocked down and snapping it, causing retirement.........

As I recall, it was the cruciate anterior ligament, plus multiple tears in the other ligaments and meniscus. So it was a very serious injury. I think he eventually got a ligament transplant, although not certain of this. It was medically suggested, I'm sure.

THE CAUSE is usually because the foot is planted, immobile, and held, and the body falls. This does not relate to being knocked down, unless the guy stood on his foot at the same time and pushed. His leg obviously became entangled and he fell because of it. ALSO.......this is what Klitschko actually said.

And he is by far, with his brother, the most believable boxer on the planet.

The serious leg injury I recall offhand, is when Tokunbo Olajide was fighting El Diamante Mendoza (who was about twice his size). Mendoza stepped on Olajide's foot and hit him at the same time. Olajide, distracted by the foot, couldn't avoid the punch, which he otherwise would have. He went down, and on immediately trying to get up, couldn't move. He'd broken his ankle. Mind, Olajide weighed 154, and Klitschko 250.

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CARLISLE- I don't understand computers, but it seems to me that in your letter here, the last 5 paragraphs you are reprinting, are what I WROTE, although they look as if they're part of YOUR letter. What gives??