So... Could Joe Calzaghe Ever Claim a Heavyweight Title?

[boxer12]

Haye is too big and too strong for Joe.

And Haye will never win another meaningful belt in his life, unless he returns to cruiserweight.

hmmm...i dont kno about that

[The Surgeon]

Well could he do it? Even in his prime? Even against a John Ruiz? And then Come back down to LHW and reclaim that throne?

Not a hope in hell!

[The Surgeon]

hmmm...i dont kno about that

Haye KO's Joe real quick in my opinion, very easy fight for Haye

[Guest]

Well could he do it? Even in his prime? Even against a John Ruiz? And then Come back down to LHW and reclaim that throne?

I reckon that Joe could take steroids to beat John Ruiz, then come back to get smacked from pillar to post by Tarver yet get a points victory, yes.

[C'MONMANG']

joe is too old
ill be surprised if he gets a title at cruiserweight
but give the man his dues he currently dominates 2 boxing classes at the same time no one is more dominant than this man currently

I agree and his willingness to fight PAvlik..

[Addition]

I agree and his willingness to fight PAvlik..

So why is he going to fight Pavlik?

[THE REED]

I reckon that Joe could take steroids to beat John Ruiz, then come back to get smacked from pillar to post by Tarver yet get a points victory, yes.

i mean, at least have facts at hand if your gonna make a statement like that...

unless your being sarcastic... which, wouldnt be out of the question...

[Guest]

What facts?

I put it to you that he was roided up.

Then I saw him get slapped like a batty boy. He may have edged more rounds than Tarver, but Tarver practically had a strap on up his ass that night.

[THE REED]

What facts?

I put it to you that he was roided up.

Then I saw him get slapped like a batty boy. He may have edged more rounds than Tarver, but Tarver practically had a strap on up his ass that night.

THESE FACTS

Roy Jones Jr

Tested positive for androstenedione.

The post-fight drug test showed Jones and Hall both tested positive for androstenedione, which is a banned substance by the IBF. Androstenedione is a natural steroid hormone that was commonly available over the counter as a supplement until 2004 when the FDA made the over the counter sale of androstenedione illegal. Jones admitted to taking the product "ripped fuel" which was sold in GNC and every nutritional supplement outlet.Jones was able to keep his title and was not fined or suspended for the positive test. All of Jones' other post-fight drug tests before and after this fight came back clean. He ended the year by stopping Eric Harding in the 10th round of a one sided fight, once again successfully retaining the title.

http://www.answers.com/topic/roy-jones-jr

Androstenedione

Androstenedione is a steroid hormone produced in the adrenal glands and ovaries. It functions as a precursor to both testosterone and estrogen. Androstenedione ("andro") is manufactured as a dietary supplement and marketed as a natural alternative to anabolic steroids, claiming to enhance sports performance and increases muscle mass. However, some studies suggest that Androstenedione supplementation may have adverse health consequences due to its androgenic and estrogenic properties. [1-4] Androstenedione has been banned by The National Football League, International Olympic Committee, and the National Collegiate Athletic Association.

Due to the lack of proven benefits and the potential risks, on March 11, 2004, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) suggested that manufactures stop distributing andro supplements. [5] In October, 2004, the Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2004 was approved by the Senate and the House, and signed into law by President George W. Bush. As of January 20, 2005, this law is now enforceable.

http://www.supplementnews.org/androstenedione/index.htm

PITTSBURGH--General Nutrition Centers (GNC) will begin checking customer ID to verify the shopper is 18 years or older when buying products intended for adult use. Affected GNC products include those containing ephedra, kava, melatonin,androstenedione or synephrine, which all have warning labels regarding underage usage.

http://www.naturalproductsmarketplace.com/hotnews/2bh7143114.html

Those are the facts, he tested positive ONE time, for a drug that was sold at GNC, and at the time he took it... it was LEGAL.. when they passed the steroid act in 2004 they went BACK and tested his sample, and found a chemical in his sample, that was over the counter and legal at the time... which is WHY he was never suspended or anything...

There was no steroids in the HW fight, or any other fight...

[Guest]

Roy got Tarver to piss in a pot for him. That's the real story.