Cotto vs Gomez brings LOWEST HBO WCB ratings ever

[QUISQUEYA]

And he don't deserve a fight with Floyd cuz of that...

Unfortunately, the state of boxing isn't about "deserve". It is a money-driven sport.

Does Witter "deserve" a title bout?

[Addison]

****in christ, we got more people chatting PPV than technical Boxing.

[QUISQUEYA]

Your avatar reminds me just truly how much floyd was draining himself at 130 just to get an advantage over the smaller guys -someone feed the guy.

Wasn't PBF outweighed in the big fights at 130?

[QUISQUEYA]

****in christ, we got more people chatting PPV than technical Boxing.

I'm watching Tsurkan - Feliciano. I haven't seen technical boxing all night.

[El Jesus]

Horus I'm not reading your ****** ass **** and I'm a mayweather fan. You gotta be just as bad as the Margarito nuthuggers.

Oh yeah, the Lakers will get stomped just like they did during the regular season, they ain't got **** 4 the C's. I bet they don't even make it to the finals b.

..no disrespect, but, the lakers match up with the celtics very well. On the interior KG/Gasol is a good matchup, Odom can gaurd either pierce or allen, and nobody on the celtics can gaurd kobe. And if Bynum is back by the time they reach the finals, thats also going to be a problem. The laker bench is also superior to the celtics, the lakers are a problem.

[El Jesus]

If it did "one of the lowest ratings for an HBO WBC program" it's a shame, cuz it's was one of the best HBO's WBC cards in years...

no it wasnt cotto and gomez had no buisness fighting each other, that was a one fight card, and that one fight was the same blowout from before, and if you saw cintron against feliciano, you knew it might happen anyway. Regardless, i dont know why people expect universal american appeal for a fighter who wears the flag of another country on his sleeve. Even if puerto rico is apart of america, still hes not being marketed towards americans, hes being marketed towards puerto ricans, and if youre fighting in new york/nj all the time, thats who your fanbase is going to be. The Judah/Cotto PPV didint do well, but the Mosley Cotto PPV did, but mosley is a semi draw, they both made that PPV what it is, however it just goes to show that Cotto is not a blockbuster draw yet, and its because he doesnt have that universal appeal yet, he only has puerto rican appeal unfortunately.

[NAPO]

no it wasnt cotto and gomez had no buisness fighting each other, that was a one fight card, and that one fight was the same blowout from before, and if you saw cintron against feliciano, you knew it might happen anyway. Regardless, i dont know why people expect universal american appeal for a fighter who wears the flag of another country on his sleeve. Even if puerto rico is apart of america, still hes not being marketed towards americans, hes being marketed towards puerto ricans, and if youre fighting in new york/nj all the time, thats who your fanbase is going to be. The Judah/Cotto PPV didint do well, but the Mosley Cotto PPV did, but mosley is a semi draw, they both made that PPV what it is, however it just goes to show that Cotto is not a blockbuster draw yet, and its because he doesnt have that universal appeal yet, he only has puerto rican appeal unfortunately.

wtf?????????

[Ray*]

no it wasnt cotto and gomez had no buisness fighting each other, that was a one fight card, and that one fight was the same blowout from before, and if you saw cintron against feliciano, you knew it might happen anyway. Regardless, i dont know why people expect universal american appeal for a fighter who wears the flag of another country on his sleeve. Even if puerto rico is apart of america, still hes not being marketed towards americans, hes being marketed towards puerto ricans, and if youre fighting in new york/nj all the time, thats who your fanbase is going to be. The Judah/Cotto PPV didint do well, but the Mosley Cotto PPV did, but mosley is a semi draw, they both made that PPV what it is, however it just goes to show that Cotto is not a blockbuster draw yet, and its because he doesnt have that universal appeal yet, he only has puerto rican appeal unfortunately.

Agree with every word.They need to stop restricting Cotto to fighting in New york, Make him fight all over the USA or at least las vegas.

The puerto rican would alway support him anyway so they need to sell him to the wider audience instead of just the PR people in NY.

[Lazy Liberal]

FUN FACTS TO CONSIDER ABOUT P.P.V's and other fighters...
compare to Floyd..

Floyd vs. Hatton = 850,000 Buys= $47 million in pay-per-view revenue.

The fight was the highest-grossing PPV fight ever that didn't feature a heavyweight or a Oscar De La Hoya.


GOOGLE ANY OF THESE FIGHTS AND ALL THESE NUMBERS WILL BE THE OFFICAL NUMBERS


Pacquaio vs. Big Names

Pacquaio vs. Morales 350,000 PPV
Pacquiao vs. Morales II- 355,000 buys
PACQUIAO vs. BARRERA 350,000 PPV
Pacquaio vs. Marquez I 360,000 PPV
Pacquaio vs. MarquezII 400,000 buys

Roy Jones vs. Big Names

Roy Jones Jr vs. Felix Trinidad 500,000 PPV = $25 million
Roy Jones Jr vs. John Ruiz 602,000 PPV = $26.5 million
Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver I 302,000 PPV
Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver II 382,000 PPV
Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver III 402,000 PPV

Felix Trinidad vs. Big Names Besides Oscar:

Felix Trinidad vs. Roy Jones 500,000 PPV
Felix Trinidad vs. Winky Wright 510,000 buys
Felix Trinidad vs. Bernard Hopkins 475,000 buys
Felix Trinidad vs. Ricardo Mayorga 420,000 buys
Felix Trinidad vs. Fernando Vargas 560,000 buys

Bernard Hopkins vs. Big Names Beside's Oscar

Bernard Hopkins vs. Felix Trinidad 475,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Jermain Taylor I 370,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Jermain Taylor II 410,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Antonio Tarver 330,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Winky Wright 305,000 Buys

Shane Mosley vs. Big Names Beside's Oscar
Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas 420,000 Buys
Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas II 350,000 buys
Shane Mosley vs. Miguel Cotto 340,000 buys

Miguel Cotto
Miguel Cotto vs. Shane Mosely 340,000 buys
Miguel Cotto vs. Zab Judah 220,000 Buys

THE REAL POINT...

Floyd fighting a Nobody is almost the equivalent to any fight the 3rd Biggest Name in Boxing (Pacquaio) is fighting in and that is with Big Names



Floyd vs. No Name Fighter with no U.S exposure (T.V):

Floyd vs.Carlos Baldomir 325,000 buys = 16.3 Million

"We're very pleased with Mayweather's PPV performance, especially given that Baldomir had little previous exposure in the US," HBO PPV's Mark Taffet said.

Baldomir's only previous U.S. exposure came in his January upset of Judah to win the welterweight title and his July knockout of Gatti in his first defense.

"These numbers are very reflective of the numbers generated by Oscar when he did not have the well-known name challenger in the other corner, which obviously speaks volumes of Floyd's star power," Goossen said.


Oscar vs. No Names with No U.S Exposure (T.V):

M.A. Gonzalez(1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
6 fights in the United States before the fight...

Felix Sturm (6/04) 380,000 buys = $19.0 million
This is after Oscar already had 3 Mega Fights over 925,000 P.P.V buys...
Trinidad, Fernando Vargas, Shane Mosley
This also after Oscar already had 4 fights of P.P.V over 550,000 P.P.V buys
Hector Camacho, Ike Quartey, J.C Chavez II, Shane Mosley,

So how do you do only 380,000 after all of that exposure in MEGA FIGHTS...?
And this is Oscar De La Hoya..... So that shows you how much ExposURe in the United States Affect P.P.V sales...

Floyd fighting a Nobody(Baldomir) is almost the equivalent to and better than

Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas II 350,000 buys
Shane Mosley vs. Miguel Cotto 340,000 buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Antonio Tarver 330,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Winky Wright 305,000 Buys
Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver I 302,000 PPV
Miguel Cotto vs. zab Judah 225,000 PPV


and Floyd fighting a marginal Name Like Judah is bigger than all these fights..


Pacquaio vs. Morales 350,000 PPV
PACQUIAO vs. BARRERA 350,000 PPV
Pacquaio vs. Marquez I 360,000 PPV
Morales/Pacquiao III - 350,000 buys
Morales/Pacquiao II - 355,000 buys
Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas II 350,000 buys
Shane Mosley vs. Miguel Cotto 340,000 buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Antonio Tarver 330,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Winky Wright 305,000 Buys
Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver I 302,000 PPV
Miguel Cotto vs. zab Judah 225,000 PPV
Bernard Hopkins vs. Jermain Taylor I 370,000 Buys







And Judah is barely a marginal Name...
So Floyd vs. Judah = 375,000 buys So you could say that was all Floyd with a Marginal name fighter is better than 2/5 of the most Highest Selling P.P,V EVER not including a HeavyWeight or Oscar..

And if you Say Judah was superstar before the Mayweather Fight how..??

Because What exactly makes Judah a superstar or a big name? that was his first PPV and he had done nothing before that to prove he was a major draw.

There are only a handful of true superstars in the sport. DLH, Trinidad, Hopkins, Jones. Mayweather , and Pacquiao

Judah is and was nowhere near that level before and After. Would a superstar take $100k to fight Cory Spinks fighting in his own backyard..?





So lets put things into perspective when talking about Floyd...

Wow.............Those facts were really FUN!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks!!!!

[NAPO]

Agree with every word.They need to stop restricting Cotto to fighting in New york, Make him fight all over the USA or at least las vegas.

The puerto rican would alway support him anyway so they need to sell him to the wider audience instead of just the PR people in NY.

read his post again.