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  • #21
    Originally posted by boxing_prospect View Post
    it was a direct question to which the answer was pretty obvious and you got i said from the begining that cotto punches harder to the body than hopkins does and you pretty much know the answer you gave me.
    this your words here

    one thing's clear, miguel is a major league body puncher, that's his game. oscar doesnt have a good history of taking it to the body as he was ko'd by hopkins bodyshot, and the punch didnt look all that powerful. true it was delivered by a middleweight, and eventhough miguel is a welterweight the delivery of his liver punches is much more effective, accurate, pin point, and powerfull. if there's a possibility that oscar will get ko'd it will mostly likely be from the punishment to the midsection, or a brutal finish to the head after wearing oscar down to the body. that's one of the possibilities of how the fight might unfold

    the bold is where we disagree from the start. FACT: Oscar has only been stopped by Hopkins who was a bigger man and stronger.

    U think based off hopkins Koing Oscar to the body that cotto can do the same, that's the implication in what u wrote. That is false. Cotto doesn't have the size or power to do what hopkins did. By your own confession Hopkins was a MW with more size and snapp on his punches, therfore u concede that Bernard has more power. And i'm the troll and got

    WRONG!!!

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    • #22
      Originally posted by silencers98 View Post
      Pound for pound, Cotto.

      Edit: Hopkins is naturally the harder puncher though, he's a natural light heavyweight fighting at middlweight whereas Cotto is a natural welterweight.
      Where was Cotto's body attack against Shane's old ass?

      Forrest had a PRIME Shane HOLLERING from bodyshots...Cotto didn't even budge that old mofo..

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      • #23
        Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
        this your words here

        one thing's clear, miguel is a major league body puncher, that's his game. oscar doesnt have a good history of taking it to the body as he was ko'd by hopkins bodyshot, and the punch didnt look all that powerful. true it was delivered by a middleweight, and eventhough miguel is a welterweight the delivery of his liver punches is much more effective, accurate, pin point, and powerfull. if there's a possibility that oscar will get ko'd it will mostly likely be from the punishment to the midsection, or a brutal finish to the head after wearing oscar down to the body. that's one of the possibilities of how the fight might unfold

        the bold is where we disagree from the start. FACT: Oscar has only been stopped by Hopkins who was a bigger man and stronger.

        U think based off hopkins Koing Oscar to the body that cotto can do the same, that's the implication in what u wrote. That is false. Cotto doesn't have the size or power to do what hopkins did. By your own confession Hopkins was a MW with more size and snapp on his punches, therfore u concede that Bernard has more power. And i'm the troll and got

        WRONG!!!
        you make no ****ing sense first of all QUOTE THE ENTIRE SENTENCE

        if there's a possibility that oscar will get ko'd it will mostly likely be from the punishment to the midsection, or a brutal finish to the head after wearing oscar down to the body. that's one of the possibilities of how the fight might unfold

        and i never said that miguel punched harder than hopkins. i said he punches harder to the body than bernard. overall i said hopkins has more power because of the size difference

        just let me understand how inadequate you are
        Last edited by Boogie Nights; 04-24-2008, 02:35 PM.

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        • #24
          eventhough miguel is a welterweight the delivery of his liver punches is much more effective, accurate, pin point, and powerfull.

          this was my very first post

          "i knew this fight would happen all along. all those promises oscar made to his wife, they were just publicity stunts, but in a way it was oscar promoting his return. and december is a good date, he'll probably pick a date near x-mas or something. oscar is a smart businessman

          i wont make a prediction until i see how oscar does with mayweather, and how cotto does with margarito(if the fight is materialized)

          one thing's clear, miguel is a major league body puncher, that's his game. oscar doesnt have a good history of taking it to the body as he was ko'd by hopkins bodyshot, and the punch didnt look all that powerful. true it was delivered by a middleweight, and eventhough miguel is a welterweight the delivery of his liver punches is much more effective, accurate, pin point, and powerfull. if there's a possibility that oscar will get ko'd it will mostly likely be from the punishment to the midsection, or a brutal finish to the head after wearing oscar down to the body. that's one of the possibilities of how the fight might unfold"

          you making yourself sound silly

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          • #25
            Originally posted by boxing_prospect View Post
            you make no ****ing sense first of all QUOTE THE ENTIRE SENTENCE

            if there's a possibility that oscar will get ko'd it will mostly likely be from the punishment to the midsection, or a brutal finish to the head after wearing oscar down to the body. that's one of the possibilities of how the fight might unfold

            and i never said that miguel punched harder than hopkins. i said he punches harder to the body than bernard. overall i said hopkins has more power because of the size difference

            just let me understand how inadequate you are
            don't get mad, u said it. u crazy to admit that Bernard is bigger and stronger and punchest harder, but think that Cotto can still punch harder to the body. like I said, i guess Cotto got super power now and KO Oscar de la Hoya to the body but none of the bigger stronger fighters he has faced has been able to except Hopkins. A MW who moved up to LHW and rocked the LHW champion of the world. HA!

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            • #26
              Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
              don't get mad, u said it. u crazy to admit that Bernard is bigger and stronger and punchest harder, but think that Cotto can still punch harder to the body. like I said, i guess Cotto got super power now and KO Oscar de la Hoya to the body but none of the bigger stronger fighters he has faced has been able to except Hopkins. A MW who moved up to LHW and rocked the LHW champion of the world. HA!
              check out the ****ing poll numbers and see who else thinks that cotto punches harder to the body

              you got owned baby biggest ****ing ownage on Boxing Scene

              and you need to watch more boxing before talking about **** you dont know

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              • #27
                Originally posted by boxing_prospect View Post
                check out the ****ing poll numbers and see who else thinks that cotto punches harder to the body

                you got owned baby biggest ****ing ownage on Boxing Scene

                and you need to watch more boxing before talking about **** you dont know
                A poll don't dictate what i think and what i know is true. They idiots and cotto groupies just like u. U ain't saying nothing

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by TheManchine View Post
                  Exactly. 90% of the time Teddy Atlas is completely wrong about his predictions but when he gets one right, he will let you know about it.

                  Steve Forbes has no chance. He will never win a decision against De La Hoya and a Forbes KO is surely impossible (with 9 knockouts to his credit)... that's why I'm picking him to win.
                  manchine you're an optimist, imagine if forbes actually pulls it off. you could rank it with some of the biggest upsets in boxing history.

                  and yeah teddy will sure let you know. to get so many predictions wrong, and then finally to get one that's right, he has to brag about it haha

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
                    A poll don't dictate what i think and what i know is true. They idiots and cotto groupies just like u. U ain't saying nothing
                    28 people that voted for cotto, according to cortdawg25 are IDIOTS AND COTTO GROUPIES. SON YOU JUST INSULTED THE WHOLE BOXING SCENE. SHAME ON YOU

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
                      A poll don't dictate what i think and what i know is true. They idiots and cotto groupies just like u. U ain't saying nothing



                      There is such a thing as being "wrong".

                      Ever heard of it?

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