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  • #41
    Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
    Dude are u serious? Hopkins damn near KOed a light heavy weight in Tarver and KD Calzaghe a super MW and u think Cotto has Bernard pop. Man and yall talk about Floyd fans. Yall gon quit disrespecting Oscar, never will Oscar be KOed by Cotto. trinidad couldn't even KO Oscar. I think Oscar beats Cotto all day.
    Ain't happenin bruh...

    Though I respect Oscar, let's face it...he's a shell of his former self. The last dominant fight he had was against Mayorga who had no where near the skills Oscar has. He'd be fighting arguably the #2 (or #1 if you count active fighters) WW in the world coming off a fight most people here called his most dangerous fight (Margarito). Oscar would be coming off another loss to Floyd as well, so where's that logic of Oscar beating Cotto all day?

    If anything give Oscar credit for even considering a fight with Cotto unlike Floyd who continues to run.

    Balls: Oscar > Floyd. Because it's obvious money ain't the issue when dealing with De La Hoya.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
      Dude are u serious? Hopkins damn near KOed a light heavy weight in Tarver and KD Calzaghe a super MW and u think Cotto has Bernard pop. Man and yall talk about Floyd fans. Yall gon quit disrespecting Oscar, never will Oscar be KOed by Cotto. trinidad couldn't even KO Oscar. I think Oscar beats Cotto all day.
      first of all im not a fan of floyds (he's one of the boxers i least like in boxing for obvious reasons), im a huge oscar fan if you didnt know. and it's not because of love or hate that im saying this, i call it the way i see it.

      hopkins was never a big puncher. yes he showed strength in the tarver fight. but he was 15 pounds heavier, and 15 pounds stronger. light heavyweight should have been his weight for a while now. for the oscar fight he weighed in at 156 under the contractual agreement, just 9 pounds heavier than cotto. miguel goes to the body in a much more agressive manner, and is a harder fighter than bernard who is more technical in his strategy. the shot against joe was not hard at all, he got up the second he hit the floor, and never got hurt again. you have your opinion and you're entitled to it, the way i see it cotto's body game is much better and stronger than bernards'

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      • #43
        Originally posted by RL_GMA View Post
        Ain't happenin bruh...

        Though I respect Oscar, let's face it...he's a shell of his former self. The last dominant fight he had was against Mayorga who had no where near the skills Oscar has. He'd be fighting arguably the #2 (or #1 if you count active fighters) WW in the world coming off a fight most people here called his most dangerous fight (Margarito). Oscar would be coming off another loss to Floyd as well, so where's that logic of Oscar beating Cotto all day?

        If anything give Oscar credit for even considering a fight with Cotto unlike Floyd who continues to run.

        Balls: Oscar > Floyd. Because it's obvious money ain't the issue when dealing with De La Hoya.
        That shell will beat Cotto all day, please believe it. Cotto struggles with boxers. Oscar can box and yeah I know Cotto barely beat Mosley, but Mosley ain't no boxer. He is a brawler with speed. Cotto struggled with Urkal and Zab. And to believe like some of yall that Cotto could KO is just crazy. Only once has Oscar been stopped. The only losses Oscar has is too bigger fighters or faster fighters and Trinidad. Cotto ain't none of those!

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        • #44
          This is big, and if Cotto gets past Margarito and De La Hoya, then Mayweather will have to fight him. By then, Cotto will be huge.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by NeXt In Line View Post
            I really like Oscar, he's been a great fighter throughout his career and has always fought the best. He's had great fights with Mosley, Quartey, Whitaker, Vargas, etc. The only problem I have is like most people's, that he continually gets in the way of other fights because he brings in so much money.

            BUT, I want him to beat Floyd, convincingly, and then have him fight Cotto. De La Hoya-Cotto, I would put money down to be FOTY.
            There's no doubt DLH-Cotto is potentially a great action bout. I understand your concern that DLH "gets in the way" of other fights because he is such a huge draw and every fighters' dream opponent from 140 - 160 lbs., but I don't think he is doing anything to delay a Cotto-PBF fight.

            The primary reason you can know that is true is because Bob Arum is not saying anything about it. If Arum thought Floyd would fight Cotto if not for Oscar, he'd be telling anyone and everyone that is the case. Instead, he is saying Floyd simply doesn't want to fight Cotto, period.

            As an aside, I know the Mayweather-DLH II fight is causing an uproar among hardcore fans, because the first fight wasn't exactly a barnburner and most feel the result in the rematch will be the same. I tend to agree--Floyd isn't going to change his style for this fight and Oscar is going to have a tough time catching him, again. But, with the first fight being a split decision, it is conceivable that Oscar could win one more big round than in the first fight, and the rest of the fight mirrors that first one, and all the sudden he gets the decision.

            The conspiracy-theorists would cry it would all be a ploy for the rubbermatch, but there is NO way they would do as well financially on a third fight if the rematch is just as suspense-less as the first fight. A decision win for DLH sets up a Cotto fight beautifully, however.

            One more thing: Cotto getting past Margarito is NO sure thing. That should be the 147 fight everyone focuses on from now until July 26.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by boxing_prospect View Post
              first of all im not a fan of floyds (he's one of the boxers i least like in boxing for obvious reasons), im a huge oscar fan if you didnt know. and it's not because of love or hate that im saying this, i call it the way i see it.

              hopkins was never a big puncher. yes he showed strength in the tarver fight. but he was 15 pounds heavier, and 15 pounds stronger. light heavyweight should have been his weight for a while now. for the oscar fight he weighed in at 156 under the contractual agreement, just 9 pounds heavier than cotto. miguel goes to the body in a much more agressive manner, and is a harder fighter than bernard who is more technical in his strategy. the shot against joe was not hard at all, he got up the second he hit the floor, and never got hurt again. you have your opinion and you're entitled to it, the way i see it cotto's body game is much better and stronger than bernards'
              And I think your opinion is wrong. Cotto doesn't have power like that where he is gonna floor Oscar de la Hoya who has never been hurt other than by Bernard hopkins. U say Hopkins doesn't have power, ask taylor, hell ask Trinidad. U hyping Cotto way to hard, he don't even have more power than margarito. and I hate to give Margarito that "up" like that.

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              • #47
                Hell yeah. Glad Oscar came to his senses about not fighting puerto ricans. This fight will be great. I think oscar can definetly beat cotto. I don't think losing to mayweather will make a difference. Mayweather won't fight cotto so the fight will happen regardless. YES!

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by rocktx View Post
                  Oscar better conentrate on Forbes. He hasnt looked too impressive in his last couple fights and hes another year older. I would like to see him fight Cotto because Oscar hits hard enough to keep him at bay. In the end I think he gets caught with some good body shots and ether gets stopped or a lopsided decision. We all know DLH is soft in the mid section hahaha!!!
                  remember he is back to his rhythm with mayweather sr. he usually looks good when he is on his toes

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                  • #49
                    I rarely post on these sites and the reason is knuckleheads who dont know boxing. Wow cotto was wobble with a shot to the temple. The type of punch that knocks fighters out. (tarver-jones2) why would cotto have to step his game up? Margo can not box at all. didnt u see his past fights? Cotto has 0 losses margo has 5 and cotto has faught way way better fighters. Yes margo has a chin so what. thats gonna make it worse for him. Look at Malignaggi, Branco, and Abdulaev. Look at the punishment they took. Clottey and williams both woop him and that was not too long ago. REAL boxing people like oscar know that margo will lose. Its not even gonna be close. But enough with the talk come july 26 you will watch and learn.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
                      That shell will beat Cotto all day, please believe it. Cotto struggles with boxers. Oscar can box and yeah I know Cotto barely beat Mosley, but Mosley ain't no boxer. He is a brawler with speed. Cotto struggled with Urkal and Zab. And to believe like some of yall that Cotto could KO is just crazy. Only once has Oscar been stopped. The only losses Oscar has is too bigger fighters or faster fighters and Trinidad. Cotto ain't none of those!
                      You call an 11 round destruction with two knockdowns and 11 round tko with a shutout in the cards, struggles. Most top fighters which they could struggle like that. Mosley hopes he can struggle like that when he fights Judah. You don't know what you're talking about, Oscar will put up a valiant effort but Cotto right now is just too good. Oscar goes in round 9 if he fights and loses an unanimous decision if he boxes.

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