I think watching the fight back in particular, it's easy to watch the loser more to investigate further, if claims of being more subtly effective are true. That leaves you not noticing the effectiveness of the winner so much, so you wind up debating it again.
Clear Calzaghe win.
Yes, I saw you post something similar elsewhere, so I'm going to watch again, but not right now, as its becoming obsessive!
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I think it was obvious that Calzaghe won the fight. Ever since the first Taylor fight, there seems to be this unwritten rule that what is a legitimate way to score a fight as a loss for one figter doesn't apply to Hopkins because of his "technician-ship"....which, in this case, the word can almost be used synonomously with the words "magic" or "miracle" or "divines"....as in, he won the fight because of his "awesome defense" and "technician-ship".....anyone who can't see that doesn't know boxing....blah, blah, blah.
Is Hopkins a supreme technician? Absolutely he is.
Is he and all-time great? Once again, absolutely.
However, just because a fighter is a recognized all time great technician, it doesn't mean you can't believe your eyes. If a man, all-time great or no, appears to have been outboxed or out-huslted....then he probably was.
Or, as my grandaddy put it.....if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck........it's probably a duck.
Yes, I saw you post something similar elsewhere, so I'm going to watch again, but not right now, as its becoming obsessive!
Heh, I know the feeling :-)
Watched half of the fight back so far and I found myself doing it big time. Both consciously and sub consciously, all this "effective counters, more damage" is stuck in the head, and it left me not watching both fighters evenly, was weird actually.
Intend on watching it in full again on Sunday bbc2!
I've said before, I had Hopkins one point ahead going into the eleventh round, but gave Joe the last two.
Alot of folks may think it was clearer for Joe because he dominated the last six rounds so well but after the first four rounds I had Hopkins up by four rounds (10-8, 10-9, 10-10 and 10-9) so Joe had quite a deficit to make up. A couple of close rounds in the middle and maybe one more round for Hopkins (I seem to remember the seventh being an ok one for him) and you've got a close verdict.
Joe did deserve the win but thats not to say his performance impressed me. As for him being talked of as the world's second best pound for pound...........not for me, only judging by results and not form. I think Joe could be beaten by any of the other elite 175 pounders ( Tarver, Johnson, Jones or possibly Dawson ). All these guys could give him trouble, maybe more than Hopkins.
It was close, but Calzaghe out-worked him down the stretch...B-Hop PROVED he was the better fighter though! I'll take a PRIME B-hop by Stoppage over a PRIME Calzaghe!
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