Easy-E's Round by Round of Hopkins v Calzaghe

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    #11
    Originally posted by kayjay
    There were a number of rounds you could give Hopkins, but nothing after the first you absolutely had to give him. He just didn't have it in him to have even one decisive round.

    Very negative, very poor fight from him. Very cautious fight from Joe by his standards. Both guys dropped heavily in my estimation
    Yeah I was not impressed with either fighter.

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      #12
      Originally posted by warp1432
      Well most of those punches thrown by Calzaghe weren't landing that cleanly (On Bernard's back) and Ring generalship is debateable. Just because Hopkins backed up, he lost the category? Hopkins was clinching and making Joe fight his fight in those rounds. Hopkins was landing better shots inside the clinch too (most of the time anyway).

      Hopkins also went to the body which would land pretty good too, which I felt many people didn't notice.
      Hopkins was backing up and throwing one punch at a time in comparison to Calzaghe throwing flurries, landing the left hook relativly consistantly, and jabbing more than Hopkins and like I said, constantly backing Hopkins up. So yes, he dominated in the ring generalship category.

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        #13
        Originally posted by NAPO
        i used to live in hyde park but now im in the town of framingham.
        thats tight i live about 15 from there.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Kball15
          What do you think of Calzaghe vs Dawson, Pavlik, or Jones?
          Calzaghe has the edge against Dawson, we saw that Dawson had problems with the pressure Johnson gave him, and I think Calzaghe is better than Johnson in every category.
          Pavlik has the power and technique to hurt Joe, that is a great potential matchup.
          Roy has the potential to win, but he is too cautious in his old age and will most likely get outworked.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Easy-E
            Hopkins was backing up and throwing one punch at a time in comparison to Calzaghe throwing flurries, landing the left hook relativly consistantly, and jabbing more than Hopkins and like I said, constantly backing Hopkins up. So yes, he dominated in the ring generalship category.
            Hopkins would throw more then one punch at a time in the clinch and even when he did he would land. I mean the rounds were close, but Calzaghe's jab wasn't landing all that much.

            If Hopkins backs up I don't consider that making him back up, I consider that getting out of the way of Joe's punches. I don't see why it's bad to back up like that if you counter with succession in return.

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              #16
              Originally posted by warp1432
              Hopkins would throw more then one punch at a time in the clinch and even when he did he would land. I mean the rounds were close, but Calzaghe's jab wasn't landing all that much.

              If Hopkins backs up I don't consider that making him back up, I consider that getting out of the way of Joe's punches. I don't see why it's bad to back up like that if you counter with succession in return.
              Calzaghe is throwing and landing punches and Hopkins was backing up, getting hit and clinching.

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                #17
                Well I'm just sharing my opinion. What you view is I view differently.

                What you see as Calzaghe backing up is I see as Bernard advoiding. There is effective agression, but Bernard was moving more to the ropes on his part not so much because Calzaghe was always bullying him there.

                I mean he sometimes is. Calzaghe did great and I don't argue that people could give him rounds (except #8 which I think Hopkins definietly won). I just telling my view on the way I saw it.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by warp1432
                  Well I'm just sharing my opinion. What you view is I view differently.

                  What you see as Calzaghe backing up is I see as Bernard advoiding. There is effective agression, but Bernard was moving more to the ropes on his part not so much because Calzaghe was always bullying him there.

                  I mean he sometimes is. Calzaghe did great and I don't argue that people could give him rounds (except #8 which I think Hopkins definietly won). I just telling my view on the way I saw it.
                  But Bernard was getting hit 2 or 3 times when Joe would throw 5 and 6 punch flurries. That is effective agression more so than throwing one punch at a time and then clinching and throwing a couple punches in the clinch.
                  Joe was controlling the pace with his flurries, and in some of the middle rounds (to my surprise) his jab.

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