Why is Hopkins old school, & John Ruiz awful?

[macman]

Why was Hopkins performance a classic piece of old school fighting to some people, & yet John Ruiz standard tactics are a stain on the sport?

To me, there doesn't seem to be a hell of a lot of difference in basic plan - hit & hold, wrestle, hold & hit.

Think that Ruiz tends to actually throw a few more punches, though...

[AntonTheMeh]

cause he's puerto rican.puerto ricans suck at boxing.



i'm bori just in case.

[Orion]

Hopkins is nowhere near the same stratosphere in terms of boredom as Ruiz.

[Verstyle]

Bernard has a plan to his boredom. Ruiz? Simply....................... just likes hugs.

[DuttyBadBoyx]

Bernard done exactly what Ruiz does thats hit and hold all night.
dont try and play it down like it was something different

[Mr. Ryan]

Hopkins uses feints, which were favored by "old-school" tacticians like Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott and Archie Moore. He is the classic counter-puncher, the kind of guy who it's impossible (so-far) to dominate.

If you make Roy Jones look human in 1993 and still have it to make Calzaghe look awkward in 2008, you have my respect.

As for Ruiz, there is very little athletic quality to what he does.

[ferocity]

i guess the reality is Ruiz just stays in the pocket more and Hopkins boxes a bit more. They both can be in some very borin fights more so then not.

Hopkins has done it his way, but without Golden Boy Promotions i don't think we'd even hear about Hopkins in this point in his career.

[C'MONMANG']

Hopkins uses feints, which were favored by "old-school" tacticians like Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott and Archie Moore. He is the classic counter-puncher, the kind of guy who it's impossible (so-far) to dominate.

If you make Roy Jones look human in 1993 and still have it to make Calzaghe look awkward in 2008, you have my respect.

As for Ruiz, there is very little athletic quality to what he does.

way to go kid!

let me give your points....

[x3_bazooka_x3]

Why was Hopkins performance a classic piece of old school fighting to some people, & yet John Ruiz standard tactics are a stain on the sport?

To me, there doesn't seem to be a hell of a lot of difference in basic plan - hit & hold, wrestle, hold & hit.

Think that Ruiz tends to actually throw a few more punches, though...

I have been asking this question for years, but dont expect a legit honest answer from the forums, you see the same **** that I do, the fact is there is no difference in their style both are dirty ugly and boring styles to watch the only real differences there are weight class and race other than that they are basicly the same.

[Mr. Philadel]

i guess the reality is Ruiz just stays in the pocket more and Hopkins boxes a bit more. They both can be in some very borin fights more so then not.

Hopkins has done it his way, but without Golden Boy Promotions i don't think we'd even hear about Hopkins in this point in his career.

What are or should I say Who are you talkin 'bout? Hopkins made history in the MW division without Golden Boy! Noone from Golden Boy fought his fights, he did!