What I think of Calzaghe/Pavlik is two white underrated boxers going at it. Who will win? Who knows, both have pluses and minuses. Hopkins proved in the first round that a straight right punch is a weakness for Calzaghe and I'm sure other fighters were taken note even though its nothing new and most fighters already knew that about joe. And I think Calzaghe would beat him because Calzaghe moves way too much for Pavlik and never stays still, while Taylor fought way different then he normally does and was fighting Pavliks fight. I doubt Calzaghe would fight Pavliks fight, though Calzaghe fought Hopkins fight tonight and still beat him by points. Hopkins looked like effing crap offensively but he is mostly a great defensive fighter. But whos to say Calzaghe isn't the one who made hopkins look like crap offensively. I mean when you have a guy whos throwing 700-800 punches at you fast as hell then what else can you do then cover up?
The guy really does slap. There was about fifteen people watching the fight tonight and the drunk guys who really could give two ****s about boxing were making fun of the way/form JC delivers his punches. He never hurt Hopkins once. I'm tired of hearing from his homer fans, "Oh well his hands are injured." Who gives a damn? Slaps are slaps no matter how many or how fast they are thrown. I hope to god he fights pavlik. The ghost will be an underdog and I will put every****ing dollar I have on him. You think JC takes Pavliks punches for 12 rounds or will slap his way to a decision??? I hope to god this fights get mad but it'll probably be jones which blows ****.
i personally think he is too fast for Pavlik and would make him look bad. It probably wasn't the best performance for Calzaghe but I give him credit for the win: he adjusted well in a dirty fight.
Well......I guess a good option would be for Calzaghe to fight Roy jones and for Pavlik to fight Abraham.........then if Calzaghe and Pavlik both win....I think w/o a doubt if the money is right Calzaghe would mos def fight one more fight........Pavlik has already been complaining that he is having trouble making the weight at 160....and if he is able to get through Abraham (no easy task) then I think he would have completed everything he would want to do at middleweight and the Calzaghe fight would obviously be the one to go for
Aaah! Joe said that in the immediate aftermath of the fight, who knows which fight he really prefers or even believes can be made.
It is ridiculous to think that Joe would be scared of Pavlik, he just got through 12 rounds with Bernard Hopkins!
Joe did not look impressive tonight, but no fighter ever has against Hopkins. Hopkins is a nightmare, yet Joe still won. The man you are saying is scared of Kelly is the career undefeated SMW and LHW champ! Pavlik would be a much easier fight for Joe than Hopkins, since Joe would actually be able to fight his own fight and you would quickly see that everything Kelly has, Joe has more of, with the possible exception of power. Joe has one of the best chins in boxing and took harder shots from Mikkel Kessler than Pavlik could ever dish out.
For whoever it was that now says Kessler is a bum for losing to Joe when Joe just looked so bad against Hopkins, I can only suggest that you become a fan of boxing and actually watch some fights involving the fighters you are discussing. Before you say you have, let me tell you something:
If you had seen Kessler fight against anyone other than Joe you would not even dream of calling him a bum.
If you had seen Calzaghe fight anyone other than B-Hop you would not even dream of picking Pavlik to beat him.
If you had seen Hopkins fight against anyone but Joe you would not dream of saying that Joe was a bad fighter because he struggled with him.
If you have seen more fights than I give you credit for and you still think all these things then you must be blind.
Pavlik, i believe wants to defend his belt at 160 which he has the right to do, its not fair that people want to see him gain 15 pounds to fight a guy that slaps a 1000 times a fight. Calzaghe, earned the right to fight for big money so if he fights Jones Jr, i dont see a problem with that. True fans know who got beat up tonight so its not like Calzaghe earned the name as the man to beat.
Well said my thoughts exactly. I would love to see this fight. I don't mind the slapper slapping roy jones to death. Make your money and retire with you 'precious' undefeated record.
this just begs the question how bad are lacy and kessler wow what a weak division
Originally posted by MizzzouMan
The guy really does slap. There was about fifteen people watching the fight tonight and the drunk guys who really could give two ****s about boxing were making fun of the way/form JC delivers his punches. He never hurt Hopkins once. I'm tired of hearing from his homer fans, "Oh well his hands are injured." Who gives a damn? Slaps are slaps no matter how many or how fast they are thrown. I hope to god he fights pavlik. The ghost will be an underdog and I will put every****ing dollar I have on him. You think JC takes Pavliks punches for 12 rounds or will slap his way to a decision??? I hope to god this fights get mad but it'll probably be jones which blows ****.
He didn't hurt him? Then why did hopkins keep crying to his corner to put ice on his body? Calzaghe landed some nice body shots and we all know he throws hard body shots, Kessler felt them and so did Hopkins tonight. And we already know that Calzaghe slaps, his hands are broken and he holds back because of it. But if you even watch his older fights you would see that easily hurt his opponents like byron mitchell with those called slaps, hell if they let that fight go on Calzaghe probably would have killed Mitchell.
He didn't hurt him? Then why did hopkins keep crying to his corner to put ice on his body? Calzaghe landed some nice body shots and we all know he throws hard body shots, Kessler felt them and so did Hopkins tonight. And we already know that Calzaghe slaps, his hands are broken and he holds back because of it. But if you even watch his older fights you would see that easily hurt his opponents like byron mitchell with those called slaps, hell if they let that fight go on Calzaghe probably would have killed Mitchell.
Byron Mitchell? enough said, if youre using his name to legitimize Calzaghe's power.
Byron Mitchell? enough said, if youre using his name to legitimize Calzaghe's power.
Unbelievable that just hours after Joe becomes a two weight world champion, against a top 10 p4p fighter, we're back to these same arguments about Calzaghe's record and resume.
Let go of the hype, the anger at his win, being a fan of another fighter, and just give the man his dues.
I promise you, you'll feel better afterwards.
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