Calzaghe's record should be 43-2

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  • abadger
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    #51
    Originally posted by Allucard
    Truth is people aren't sold to Calzaghe. Fighting a 43 year old in Hopkins and almost losing the fight landing on the canvas once does not help. Calzaghe is as much hype as Zab Judah once was, that's my honest non biased opinion. If you like him you can give him credit for Lacy and some other dude, but be honest do you even know 90% of his opponents? Not a good defense, dubious chin, no power, yet fast hands and decent offense. Sum it up and you have little. The only thing i think Calzaghe can and will most likely hurt is boxing.
    I'm glad that you gave an honest opinion, not a biased one, so I'm not going to slate you for posessing it. I will however recommend that you maybe watch a few more of Calzaghe's fights. Your description of Calzaghe's game is superficially accurate, apart from the bit about his chin, which is as solid as they come. However that description displays little or no knowledge of what it is that Calzaghe actually does in order to win his fights, which is completely undermine his opponents strategy by making small but important adjustments to his own game that leave his opponent floundering and out of ideas. This is how a fighter who frequently gives away a lot in terms of physical power is able to beat fighters like Kessler and Lacy so one-sidedly, and incidentally it is also why he looked bad against Hopkins, because Bernard is just as good at this tactical game as Calzaghe and was able to see and respond to what Calzaghe was doing, unlike most fighters.

    Like I said, I'm not dissing you at all, but if you apply a little bit of attention to Calzaghe's game, against Lacy, Kessler and even Hopkins, and ask yourself honestly "what other fighter can do this?", I think you will see that far from being overrated, Calzaghe is actually underrated by the majority of boxing fans, and that far from hurting boxing, Calzaghe is one of the best talents in the sport today and a credit to it as well.

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    • Dorian
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      #52
      He won every single fight and he should've got a UD over Hopkins 116-112, no way Hopkins was winning

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      • DuttyBadBoyx
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        #53
        Worth going on about this like a month later

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        • bsrizpac
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          #54
          Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
          There is one huge difference that you're forgetting. Castillo was the champ, Reid wasn't. Also most people thought Castillo won, unlike Reid. I don't remember what rounds Calzaghe won offhand, but I do know that it's ridiculous to call the decision a robbery.
          Please point to me where in ANY boxing rule book or score book there is a rule about scoring rounds for the "champ".

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          • Jim Jeffries
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            #55
            Originally posted by bsrizpac
            Please point to me where in ANY boxing rule book or score book there is a rule about scoring rounds for the "champ".
            Are you paying attention? He was asking why Calzaghe didn't give Reid a rematch. Hello ....... McFly ........ you there?

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            • IMDAZED
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              #56
              Originally posted by abadger
              I'm glad that you gave an honest opinion, not a biased one, so I'm not going to slate you for posessing it. I will however recommend that you maybe watch a few more of Calzaghe's fights. Your description of Calzaghe's game is superficially accurate, apart from the bit about his chin, which is as solid as they come. However that description displays little or no knowledge of what it is that Calzaghe actually does in order to win his fights, which is completely undermine his opponents strategy by making small but important adjustments to his own game that leave his opponent floundering and out of ideas. This is how a fighter who frequently gives away a lot in terms of physical power is able to beat fighters like Kessler and Lacy so one-sidedly, and incidentally it is also why he looked bad against Hopkins, because Bernard is just as good at this tactical game as Calzaghe and was able to see and respond to what Calzaghe was doing, unlike most fighters.

              Like I said, I'm not dissing you at all, but if you apply a little bit of attention to Calzaghe's game, against Lacy, Kessler and even Hopkins, and ask yourself honestly "what other fighter can do this?", I think you will see that far from being overrated, Calzaghe is actually underrated by the majority of boxing fans, and that far from hurting boxing, Calzaghe is one of the best talents in the sport today and a credit to it as well.
              Nice post. And some excellent, excellent points. Do I think Calzaghe would've bested Hopkins or Jones in their prime? No. Does that take away from the fact that he is a first-ballot hall of famer and a great fighter in his own right? No. It is what it is and the final chapter of his career has yet to be written.

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              • Xplosivo
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                #57
                Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
                Are you paying attention? He was asking why Calzaghe didn't give Reid a rematch. Hello ....... McFly ........ you there?
                so because Reid wasn't the champ he didnt deserve a rematch with a guy who he got robbed against?

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                • Jim Jeffries
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Xplosivo
                  so because Reid wasn't the champ he didnt deserve a rematch with a guy who he got robbed against?
                  You bumped this garbage thread for that? Reid wasn't robbed, simple as that. He lost a close fight, get over it.

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                  • Kris Silver
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                    #59
                    Dont Feed The Troll Ppl, Absolute Time Waster.

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                    • starjammer
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                      #60
                      Hahahahaha.

                      'Hello....MCFLY.....you there??'

                      JIM JEFFRIES you are a ****ing legend. I love those films.

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