B-hop is now getting to Joe

[CreamMRS]

At the conference, Calzaghe dissed Hopkins, stating: “All this s*** about being the Executioner and
wearing that ****** hat and telling everyone he’s a legend, what the f*** is that?”

I think this is hilarious and true; BHop talks out of his ass most of the time trying to hype up his own ****. I know every fighter does it to an extent but the kind of game he talks compared to the game he brings to the ring are so far apart I can never take him seriously.

[Mozza]

Why is this place full of ******s?

[Mickey Gomez]

I'll reserve judgement until I see the video and others should do likewise. Tone and delivery are important here.

[215Chaingang]

Right, I'll give my opinion on this one more time.

Bernard Hopkins, once, was a ten year undefeated champion. Incredible.

Then, he lost to Jermain Taylor, a fighter he would have beaten easily in his prime. Then, given the opportunity to get his title back, he lost again.

Losing to taylor in itself is not the important factor. That he lost is. He is obviously not as good as he used to be.

If he loses to Jermain Taylor, do you really think he beats Joe Calzaghe, the man who at one weight higher, actually broke Bernards's defences record, and who recently beat Mikkel Kessler with relative ease?

Since those losses, Hopkins has two wins:

Against a 36 (I think) year old Tarver, an average fighter in his prime, now long past his best.

Against a 34 (I think) year old Winky Wright, who was blown up, overweight and also past his prime.

That Hopkins lost to Taylor has everything to do with it, it is the last time Hopkins fought a prime fighter, and they are two of his most recent fights. We judge the ability of boxers on their recent results don't we? I know I do anyway.

And before you attack me over Calzaghe's age, I think his Kessler and Lacy wins show that until we see otherwise, Calzaghe can be considered close to a prime fighter.

Calzaghe takes this one, based on the evidence.

i'm sorry but your evidence is tainted. when will joe state facts. these is two different fighter jt/joe the reason jt was successful because he used his jab..i've been watch joe for a while and rarely use his jab. the other reason is in my opinion b-hop could not make weight with out starving himself anymore. he should have been at 175 a while ago but he want to make his mark in the middle weight division. if you want to go off recent fights he fought lacy and kessler they were elite put unproven. hopkins was fight two proven fighters. and winky was just fight at 160 came off a great performance throwning a 1000 punches

[Mozza]

i'm sorry but your evidence is tainted. when will joe state facts. these is two different fighter jt/joe the reason jt was successful because he used his jab..i've been watch joe for a while and rarely use his jab. the other reason is in my opinion b-hop could not make weight with out starving himself anymore. he should have been at 175 a while ago but he want to make his mark in the middle weight division. if you want to go off recent fights he fought lacy and kessler they were elite put unproven. hopkins was fight two proven fighters. and winky was just fight at 160 came off a great performance throwning a 1000 punches

Kessler is better than anyone Hopkins has fought in the last couple of years. That is a fact.

[215Chaingang]

Kessler is better than anyone Hopkins has fought in the last couple of years. That is a fact.

another dumbass so if he retires today he go to the hall of fame?

let me answer that hell no. he is still unproven. the only reason we can judge joe and b-hop is because they are the end of they career.

[xfiles]

Kessler is better than anyone Hopkins has fought in the last couple of years. That is a fact.

Yeah right. I guarantee you Tarver would knock Calzaghe the **** out....

[Mozza]

another dumbass so if he retires today he go to the hall of fame?

let me answer that hell no. he is still unproven. the only reason we can judge joe and b-hop is because they are the end of they career.

What do you mean unproven? What do you want him to do exactly? Who do you want him to beat? Would a victory over a blown up De La Hoya make him proven? Would a KO of Tito make him proven? Kessler is 29 years old so your point about the Hall of Fame is absurd. He has shown himself to be a good fighter and whether he is currently eligible for HOF status seems to me to have no bearing on whether he is better than the people Hopkins has fought recently.

[Mozza]

Yeah right. I guarantee you Tarver would knock Calzaghe the **** out....

Yeah and then your alarm clock would go off.

[Ras44]

Someone, please, post the video.