My take and prediction on Cotto Vs Margarito

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  • RL_GMA
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    #21
    Originally posted by Shalafi
    I would hope and think that would be the case, despite Cotto being robotic and lethargic on his interviews Cotto has never really been disrespectful against his opponents. I felt that he acted a lil' too ****y against Gomez, he knew he could beat him with his eyes closed so there was no need to play those games with the kid I think. Maybe it was part of his game plan but I felt it was unnecessary.
    I think a little of his "****iness" (though I'd call it being confident against who he was fighting) was just to show his speed and that he can move around and box along with the inevitable power shots unlike most skeptics who made him out to simply be a brawler (though most who have watched Cotto for years know his boxing ability was always overlooked).

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    • Shalafi
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      #22
      Originally posted by Left2body
      Interesting read. The strength's and weakness's seem pretty objective and I would agree with them with the exception of Margarito is hungrier. Can't really say that for sure, Cotto constantly looks in top form and we all know "I work hard and I 100% for this fight" LOL.

      Am I the only one who see's a kinda similar matchup and fight to Vazquez-Marquez?

      I think Cotto will try and play the role of Marquez, the smaller possibly not quite as durable fighter who has an edge in boxing and hand speed. Cotto like Marquez will probably try and keep some distance and throw combinations behind his jab and limit prolong inside trades.

      Margarito will try and be like Vazquez and try and use some of his natural bigger size to his advantage on the inside. Where Vazquez worked to get inside to unleash his hook, Margarito will probably try and work inside to unleash his uppercut.

      My prediction is Cotto breaks Margarito's nose and Roach stops the fight, lol j/k......
      Hehehe, wouldn't that be something eh?

      When I said hungrier I mean that Margarito has been waiting for this opportunity all of his life, he's always been the fighter being avoided or ducked during his "prime" years, 30 is not old by any means he still going strong and I feel he's looking better after his defeat to Williams, but he has more mileage than Cotto, so I think he's going to dish out everything on his arsenal against Cotto and prepare for this fight like never before.

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      • Shalafi
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        #23
        Originally posted by Smunoz
        They are saying that cotto would use Daniel Santos as a sparring partner.
        Is Santos going to teach Cotto how to properly land a headbutt against Tony to cause a major cut resulting a stoppage?

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        • Left2body
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          #24
          Originally posted by Shalafi
          Is Santos going to teach Cotto how to properly land a headbutt against Tony to cause a major cut resulting a stoppage?
          I see a new Thread topic for Addison...........LOL j/k Addison

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          • mikec
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            #25
            Originally posted by Shalafi
            Tough fight to predict since both fighters are amazing, and they are extremely effective in what they do.
            First let me list both their strengths and weaknesses and try to come out with a well thought-out conclusion.

            (Remember this is all subjective and is based on my own personal opinion).

            Cotto:

            Strengths

            . Big puncher (devastating left hook to the body).
            . Strong and snappy jab
            . Tough (both mentally and physically)
            . Improved footwork
            . Improved lateral movement
            . Good punch speed
            . Younger and in his prime

            Weaknesses

            . Weak Chin (still debatable by some)
            . Subpar defense (tends to leave himself open on the inside, uses earmuff guard therefore prone to big uppercuts, see the Judah fight)
            . Shorter height (this could either benefit him or not against a bigger guy like Margarito)
            . Has not really been pressured (Shane fought him toe-to-toe and Cotto looked a bit uncomfortable at times, since he's always played the role of the aggressor)
            . Becoming a little arrogant (as shown on the Gomez fight, again this could either benefit him or defeat him)

            Margarito

            Strengths

            . Excellent punching power
            . Pressure fighter (throws 100+ punches per round)
            . Excellent inside work
            . Lethal uppercuts
            . Chin (nothing else can be said about this)
            . Tough (both mentally and physically)
            . The bigger man of the two
            . Hungrier at this point

            Weaknesses

            . Slower puncher
            . Slower movement
            . Subpar guard (although I think he keeps his hands up better than Cotto, blocks a lot of punches with his gloves)
            . Lazy jab
            . Age factor/mileage (although they are only 2 and change years apart, Tony has been in more wars than Cotto and it's been fighting since he was 15)

            I see Cotto starting out faster than Tony, throwing that snappy jab, landing more and keeping Tony at bay and using his better speed to come in and throw a few hooks to the body to establish his power, and then move away. Tony will keep pressuring Cotto in the later rounds landing and missing a lot of times but will not be slowed down by Cotto until the later rounds. Cotto by now will not move as fast as he did on the first rounds, Tony will start connecting on the inside landing stronger punches on a worn out Cotto, Margarito's chin being the edge factor of the fight. By round 10 or 11 both fighters will be hanging by a thread from the punishment inflicted to each other. If Cotto has not been able to stop Tony by these rounds, he won't be able to do it for the remaining rounds of the fight (again, chin being the factor), Cotto will try to use the last few drops of gas on his tank to try and box a slower Tony into a decision. However if Tony manages to connect in the last rounds, he will drop Cotto and win by TKO and win the fight. If Cotto somehow manages to survive the last 2 rounds of the fight, he will win by decision. I think when it comes down to it, the man who wants it more and whoever has the most will win this fight.
            nice analysis but i would not forget that though Marg throws 100+ a round half of them have nothing on them b/c his footwork is horrible so really he throws only 50 shots a round. Also Marg power is overrated. he hits hard but not harder then cotto (my opinion)

            Cintron looked like he could have gotten up if he wanted too but he looked beat before that punch (it was a nasty punch though)

            A truly believe that in this Fight Marg height will not be an advantage b/c he does not use his height for it. He is an inside fighter which is good for cotto. PWillams uses his height advantage good not MArg.

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              #26
              Originally posted by mikec
              nice analysis but i would not forget that though Marg throws 100+ a round half of them have nothing on them b/c his footwork is horrible so really he throws only 50 shots a round. Also Marg power is overrated. he hits hard but not harder then cotto (my opinion)

              Cintron looked like he could have gotten up if he wanted too but he looked beat before that punch (it was a nasty punch though)

              A truly believe that in this Fight Marg height will not be an advantage b/c he does not use his height for it. He is an inside fighter which is good for cotto. PWillams uses his height advantage good not MArg.
              Just because his footwork (movement() is below average, it doesn't mean his punches don't carry power in them. As a matter of fact, keeping your feet flat on the ground and torque the body when you throw a punch is how you generate power. A fighter who is on the tip of his toes moves faster and throws faster but they don't carry that much power. And I am sorry to disagree with you sir but there was no way in hell Cintron would of gotten up after that vicious hook to the ribs, besides he was already tender from all the previous shots he ate throughout the fight.

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              • Shalafi
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                #27
                Originally posted by mikec
                nice analysis but i would not forget that though Marg throws 100+ a round half of them have nothing on them b/c his footwork is horrible so really he throws only 50 shots a round. Also Marg power is overrated. he hits hard but not harder then cotto (my opinion)

                Cintron looked like he could have gotten up if he wanted too but he looked beat before that punch (it was a nasty punch though)

                A truly believe that in this Fight Marg height will not be an advantage b/c he does not use his height for it. He is an inside fighter which is good for cotto. PWillams uses his height advantage good not MArg.
                Just because his footwork (movement() is below average, it doesn't mean his punches don't carry power in them. As a matter of fact, keeping your feet flat on the ground and torque the body when you throw a punch is how you generate power. A fighter who is on the tip of his toes moves faster and throws faster but they don't carry that much power. And I am sorry to disagree with you sir but there was no way in hell Cintron would of gotten up after that vicious hook to the ribs, besides he was already tender from all the previous shots he ate throughout the fight.

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                • AntonTheMeh
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Shalafi
                  I could care less if you read it or not, just don't post in here if you are going to spread your biased Rican bull****, knucklehead.
                  my biased rican bull****?
                  **** out a here the first thing you said after margo beat cintron man i can't wait for margo to **** up that rican cotto.i don't think like you or 90 percent of margo fans you ****ing dirt bag.

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                    #29
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                      #30
                      if cotto boxes on the outside he can win. margarito will be tough for him though

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