I'm not a mayweather fan, but wow some of you Hatton fans really disgust me with the excuses. It's been over 5 months and yet the excuses are still flowing. If Floyd lost and made these many excuses as Hatton has made. This forum would be full of threads with people saying "Floyd just needs to man up and take his lost". But since its Hatton people say he has a right to complain? How is that? I'm just not understanding..and excuse my french but Hatton got knocked the **** out, plain and simple. So what does cortez's ref skills have to do with how Mayweather viscously knocked him out. Last i check Cortez didn't push hatton into mayweathers gloves? I mean c'mon seriously.
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Originally posted by Nuff CeD View PostI'm not a mayweather fan, but wow some of you Hatton fans really disgust me with the excuses. It's been over 5 months and yet the excuses are still flowing. If Floyd lost and made these many excuses as Hatton has made. This forum would be full of threads with people saying "Floyd just needs to man up and take his lost". But since its Hatton people say he has a right to complain? How is that? I'm just not understanding..and excuse my french but Hatton got knocked the **** out, plain and simple. So what does cortez's ref skills have to do with how Mayweather viscously knocked him out. Last i check Cortez didn't push hatton into mayweathers gloves? I mean c'mon seriously.
What has happened is this: He sees Floyd is open to the possibilty of a rematch. He watched the tape of the fight, sees several things he did wrong. He sees Cortez breaking them *before* a clinch several times. Cortez broke them sometimes when they were just close. Seriously, watch the fight. He broke them when Floyd was holding, and turned and warned Hatton. I mean, it really was bizarre ref'ing from Cortez in several instances. So Hatton sees this, and wants to try again. So what is his crime? If the fight is made, it'll be because Mayweather and HBO want it. If Mayweather and HBO want it, wouldn't Hatton have to be insane to not make a historically big fight?
Nobody is saying Cortez knocked Hatton out. Nobody is saying Hatton has earned a rematch. What I, personally, am saying is that Cortez did a poor job as ref, was biased, made it nearly impossible for Hatton to fight on the inside, which made it a harder fight for Hatton. If you watch the fight again, seriously, with an unbiased agenda, you'll see that for yourself. That's simply stating fact.
Hatton has every right to lobby for a rematch. He's an accomplished champion and wants to make a historic stadium fight in his home country. He thinks he can win, wants another try, and it seems Mayweather may want to do it, too. If you were in Hatton's shoes, you'd do the same thing. Anyone who says differently is lying their ass off. Period.
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Originally posted by mECHsLAVE View PostSeriously, you guys. Hatton has been taking a beating on here since the talk of a rematch began. Yes, I think Hatton should take the loss, not complain, and move on. No, I do not think he will win a rematch.
BUT...
Let's look at it from another perspective for a second.
Hatton has never lost before. He's having a hard time dealing with the reality of it. He's a supremely confident fighter, and it's been a hard pill to swallow. Most of us are sick of him mentioning Cortez when he's interviewed about the fight, but ask yourself this- when you were watching the fight, didn't you think Cortez was being uncharacteristically hard on Hatton? I think most fair-minded people would agree Cortez was not ref'ing his normal fight. Cortez allows infighting all the time in his fights, and it does seem he was ref'ing the fight strangely. Would it have made a difference in the outcome? Who knows? But probably not. Yet it gives Hatton a foundation to try and get another fight with Floyd. Should Hatton not try? Why shouldn't he? It's the biggest fight he can make, and he believes he can beat Mayweather. Isn't this kind of determination and self-confidence something we are supposed to admire? If you want to be mad at someone for Mayweather-Hatton 2, then get mad at Floyd for fighting Hatton instead of Cotto. But how can you fault Hatton? Seriously?!
Bottom line.
If Hatton can get this fight made he has a chance to be part of the biggest UK fight since the Benn/Eubank days. And an opportunity to become, with a victory- however slim you think his chances, arguably the greatest UK fighter of all time, not to mention grab the p4p #1 title. Honestly, which one of you wouldn't do the same in his shoes?
Very, very good post sir.
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Originally posted by Nuff CeD View PostI'm not a mayweather fan, but wow some of you Hatton fans really disgust me with the excuses. It's been over 5 months and yet the excuses are still flowing. If Floyd lost and made these many excuses as Hatton has made. This forum would be full of threads with people saying "Floyd just needs to man up and take his lost". But since its Hatton people say he has a right to complain? How is that? I'm just not understanding..and excuse my french but Hatton got knocked the **** out, plain and simple. So what does cortez's ref skills have to do with how Mayweather viscously knocked him out. Last i check Cortez didn't push hatton into mayweathers gloves? I mean c'mon seriously.
Hatton had to change his style to something he was uncomfortable with after Cortez wrongly started deducting from him.
Of course Mayweather was the best fighter on the night. For a start, Hatton will never be a top class Welterweight due to his size. Just a top class Light-Welterweight.
I just think that a high profile boxing match at one of the most famous sporting venues on the planet (Wembley Stadium) would be good for the exposure of this sport.
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Originally posted by mECHsLAVE View PostHatton has "manned up" as far as I can tell. He 's accepted the loss. He's congratulated Floyd.
What has happened is this: He sees Floyd is open to the possibilty of a rematch. He watched the tape of the fight, sees several things he did wrong. He sees Cortez breaking them *before* a clinch several times. Cortez broke them sometimes when they were just close. Seriously, watch the fight. He broke them when Floyd was holding, and turned and warned Hatton. I mean, it really was bizarre ref'ing from Cortez in several instances. So Hatton sees this, and wants to try again. So what is his crime? If the fight is made, it'll be because Mayweather and HBO want it. If Mayweather and HBO want it, wouldn't Hatton have to be insane to not make a historically big fight?
Nobody is saying Cortez knocked Hatton out. Nobody is saying Hatton has earned a rematch. What I, personally, am saying is that Cortez did a poor job as ref, was biased, made it nearly impossible for Hatton to fight on the inside, which made it a harder fight for Hatton. If you watch the fight again, seriously, with an unbiased agenda, you'll see that for yourself. That's simply stating fact.
Hatton has every right to lobby for a rematch. He's an accomplished champion and wants to make a historic stadium fight in his home country. He thinks he can win, wants another try, and it seems Mayweather may want to do it, too. If you were in Hatton's shoes, you'd do the same thing. Anyone who says differently is lying their ass off. Period.
To be frank Hattons no amateur.. once he saw that Cortez wasn't letting him get on his game, from then on he should of worked on a new strategy. I mean why go the whole 12 rounds trying to fight using the same inside game, if you know the ref is being "biased" against you and your fighting style. Why even box at all if your always looking for a ref to let YOU do YOUR thing.
I mean is this what boxing is about now. Ref's letting boxers "do there thing"? You play the cards that you are dealt and you deal with it. If you ain't feeling something you adjust. Boxing isn't always fair with the ref's and the judges. Even I can admit that, but once your in that ring, all focus should be on how your going to ultimately annihilate the person in front of you.
Plus in all fairness on Cortez. If you remember correctly Cortez was getting alot of heat about Hatton's dirty inside tactics before the fight even started. So its only natural for him to come in the match thinking well "let me put a stop to this now".
If Cortez would of let Hatton do his thing in the inside and hatton would have won the fight. Then you would have the Floyd fans crying saying that Cortez suck, and that he didn't do his job. But since the tables are turned, you got Hatton fans crying. So its like he can't win either way, and people know this. So I'm just not understanding why blame the ref. People are going to ***** and moan regardless.
I always watch boxing with and unbiased agenda. Because at this present moment...I have no favorite... I just love boxing. After watching the fight numerous times, I also seen how when Hatton DID get to get inside, Mayweather would straight shut him down once he got there. At numerous times in the fight, Floyd played Hatton's game and still was able to shut him down.
At the end of the fight, Hatton even admitted that himself.. so saying that Hatton would have had a chance if Cortez let him "do his thing" is preposterous. Do I think he deserves a rematch yeah.. as a fan would i want to see a rematch after what happen the first fight.. hell no.Last edited by Nuff CeD; 04-16-2008, 07:30 AM.
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Originally posted by squealpiggy View PostIt wasn't one sided for the first six rounds despite that the scorecards say, and Floyd wasn't beating Hatton at his own game because the referee was separating the fighters in some cases BEFORE there was a clinch. If you can't see that Cortez did a piss-poor job then you're probably better off watching "professional" wrestling.
And Chad Dawson beat Glen Johnson eight rounds to four.
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Mayweather was ducking his head low loads that's the main thing i had had a problem with.
Pretty much every time hatton tried to get inside
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