Cornering Mayweather

[Guest]

I am waiting for the other shoe to drop and hear that Sharmba Mitchell and Henry Bruseles were great opponents as well.

Hatton damn near lost to Collazo who's maybe top 20 at welterweight.

And you ACT like Oscar actually fights people anymore. What's he fight once a year, and what's he do, lose. You act like he's the same Oscar who fought Mosley and Quartey.


Cotto-Margarito will fight, and then the move is Floyd's.

He can do what he likes and take the cash, but I don't have to like it.

And if he doesn't get it on with the winner, what am I supposed to think?

That he fought the best in his prime?

[Scott9945]

No he wouldn't. Margarito would get KO'd just like Mayorga did. Look I don't even like little girly voice Oscar, but he's a different class of fighter than Margarito. Margarito only beats fringe contenders, guy who don't like to get hit or lower level contenders. When has a guy with Margarito's style beaten Oscar? Oscar obliterates guys like Margarito. Arum matches Margarito very carefully. Why do you think he turned down Winky and Vernon? Why do you think he strongly advised Margarito against Paul Williams? It's not rocket science.

Your first mistake is comparing Margarito to Mayorga. Totally different fighters. And Arum matches Margarito carefully? Are you ****ing kidding? He has trouble getting him fights. When has Oscar fought a guy with Margarito's style? He is the one who picks his opponents carefully. Arum didn't want AM to fight Williams because he wanted to do the Cotto fight instead, since he promotes both fighters and would make more money.

[Scott9945]

Originally Posted by Scott9945
So you'd pick Hatton to beat Margarito? You wouldn't have much problem getting action on that bet.

Hatton is a million times better than Gomez and DLH is much better than Margarito. Put Hatton and DLH on anyone's ledger and that's two career defining wins that could get you in the HOF. Gomez and Margarito don't improve Cotto's standing at all.

On July 27th Cotto will still be equally qualified to fight either Oscar or Floyd as he was on Nov. 11th, 2007. The ONLY DIFFERENCE is that Cotto will be more marketable...kind of how Floyd was after beating Gatti and Baldomir. But those aren't really close to Floyd's best wins. Same goes for Cotto with Gomez and Margarito.

I must have missed your answer somewhere in there. Would you pick Hatton to beat Margarito? You know, since he's so much better competition for Floyd than Tony.

[javelin_fangs]

you want comic relief look between your legs.like i've said before who ever fights floyd will fight him at the right time for everybody,floyd is doing his little bull**** on the side that you floyd boys correlate to jesus's miracles.collazo proved hatton don't belong at 147.anyone who thought any different is a fool.he gets rep for giving oscar the advantages he did at his weight class,and he lost that rep asking for a rematch of a ****ing fight he won.

You're full of **** if you say you wouldn't ask Oscar for the chance to make $30+ mil in a rematch. Don't front like you wouldn't do that because lying is ugly and God don't like ugly.

And Hatton might not belong at 147 but isn't that why people think Cotto would beat Floyd too? Because Cotto is a bigger, stronger welterweight who also has some skill? But he's fighting Gomez. Hatton would beat Gomez into submission and you know it.

[2501]

Ok man...I'm still pretty new on this board so maybe you're not familiar with my posts. I'll let this arrogant post on your part slide for now. But please keep in mind I have NEVER said that Cotto needs to do ANYTHING to EARN a shot at Floyd.

Do you remember the post ANTON THE GREAT posted the other day talking about "they got a gun to your head; what fight would you make?" I picked Mayweather-Cotto. That's the fight I want to see. That's the ONLY fight that matter at 147 lb. EVERYONE else at 147 is on a level below.

I understand the business end of this very well. Gomez and Margarito low risk, high reward fights for Cotto and after his 2007 schedule he has every right to take those type of fights. BUT it's pure hypocrisy to get on a soap box sermonizing about how Floyd should not fight his lowest risk, highest reward fights while giving Cotto a pass for fighting even lower risk, higher reward fights. It's pure utter hypocrisy. Nothing more, nothing less.

I'm not calling you out. So, I suggest you not call me out or put words in my mouth.

you don want to call me out trust. and the hypocrisy starts with Floyd fanatics. not fans but fanatics. A million and one excuses and reasons have been made by his fanatics as to why Floyd doesnt or shouldnt fight Cotto. At first, it was that Cotto's resume lacked any names or validity to deserve a shot at Mayweather regardless of the FACT that his resume is littered with former and later to be champions. So he beats Judah and takes on 2 names Floyd didnt fight, Mosley and now Margarito. But then the excuse is that he doesnt have a big enough name for Mayweather to even consider so he needed to step up his Marketability. You and I both know that for Cotto, there arent many options that can do this for him and BE the best quality fight, but no, he cant do it that way. Now fighting Margarito is just a low quality fight. He cant utilize the same method that Floyd did to get bigger fights.

[javelin_fangs]

Originally Posted by Scott9945
So you'd pick Hatton to beat Margarito? You wouldn't have much problem getting action on that bet.




I must have missed your answer somewhere in there. Would you pick Hatton to beat Margarito? You know, since he's so much better competition for Floyd than Tony.

I could see Hatton beating Margarito. I'm not going to put a bet on it because I could see Margarito beating Hatton too. But don't get all ****y because Oscar would wipe the ring with Margarito the same way he did with Mayorga and Hatton would wipe the ring with Gomez.

You're over here talking about Floyd is taking low risk, high reward fights...at least they're against HOF calibre fighters. Look at the low risk, high reward fights Cotto is fighting this year. Gomez ain't going to Canastota unless he pays his own admission. And Margarito? He better beat both Cotto and Mayweather if he even wants to breath Canastota.

[AntonTheMeh]

You're full of **** if you say you wouldn't ask Oscar for the chance to make $30+ mil in a rematch. Don't front like you wouldn't do that because lying is ugly and God don't like ugly.

And Hatton might not belong at 147 but isn't that why people think Cotto would beat Floyd too? Because Cotto is a bigger, stronger welterweight who also has some skill? But he's fighting Gomez. Hatton would beat Gomez into submission and you know it.

hatton would beat gomez?it's debatable.
and i'll reiterate he won the fight and asked for a rematch.
this isn't about whether or not cotto would beat floyd..

jesus.

[supermandathoe]

He sounds like he posts on this board, basically he just said "we don't need Floyd we have this great fight........but..........uhhhhhh......I wish we had Floyd"

[2501]

and the main reason Floyd gets criticized for taking easy fights is because he only fights once a year. He'll set up a fight where he's heavily favored, win.........................and thats it. And his fanatics are completely fine with that. Which is cool because thats them. But the only way the media, Cotto fans and Boxing fans would be hypocritical would be if Cotto did the same. It would be hypocritical if Cotto were to fight Gomez and then call the rest of the year off. But he doesnt work that way. He fights 3 times a year. This in no way is hypocrisy.

[supermandathoe]

and the main reason Floyd gets criticized for taking easy fights is because he only fights once a year. He'll set up a fight where he's heavily favored, win.........................and thats it. And his fanatics are completely fine with that. Which is cool because thats them. But the only way the media, Cotto fans and Boxing fans would be hypocritical would be if Cotto did the same. It would be hypocritical if Cotto were to fight Gomez and then call the rest of the year off. But he doesnt work that way. He fights 3 times a year. This in no way is hypocrisy.

Floyd would be favored to win no matter WHO he faces. You do realize YOU are a Floyd fanatic right? It's obvious you are enamored with Floyd. That being said, let's talk about Cotto-Marg without mentioning Floyd, it's like we have this great matchup in front of us but Floyd is STILL the main topic. **** there is more than one boxer on earth.