Cornering Mayweather

[Guest]

Yeah, I guess it's ok that DLH fought Mayorga for no reason.
And that his recent record isn't exactly stellar.

He was very good, but he's irrelevant now to most realistic fans.
Just like Mayweather is starting to be because of his choices.

We all know Mayweather is great but I get the sense that many are tired of him.

[2501]

Yeah, I guess it's ok that DLH fought Mayorga for no reason.
And that his recent record isn't exactly stellar.

He was very good, but he's irrelevant now to most realistic fans.
Just like Mayweather is starting to be because of his choices.

We all know Mayweather is great but I get the sense that many are tired of him.

the only people its really ok with are floyd fanatics because they gauge that performance as justification to label Oscar as still a MAJOR threat in boxing thus making it the best fight for Floyd at that time.

[Scott9945]

LOL...this is a joke right?

In what way shape for or fashion is it unfair that Mayweather fights DLH again and Cotto fights Margarito? Margarito is not as good as DLH. Margarito beat Cintron twice and Cintron is VERY OVERRATED. In a meritocracy you earn the right to be considered the best. Cotto has earned the distinction of being considered elite. Margarito gets his chance with the Cotto fight. Up until now, he's doing nothing to prove he is elite only that he is solid.

Margarito would run Oscar out of the ring. That's why you'll never hear even mention his name. In his prime it might be a different story. In 2008 Margarito beats the crap out of DLH.

[javelin_fangs]

**** floyd.it aint about floyd no more.he maybe ring p4p1 but he has no cred.it's about margo and cotto.if either one of these guys fights him people are gonna see the fighter difference between cotto/margo as opposed to oscar and hatton.floyd aint in for no cake walk,so please let him and oscar count there ****ing money and lets turn our attention to the real fighters.

You make me laugh. Margarito is a crude brawler. There's a dearth of upper echelon Mexican fighters and a disproportionate number of fans who are Mexican. So, there's bound to be one or two Mexican fighter who are over-rated. Margarito is the one. Cotto will beat him convincingly and then some will claim he is the deserving #1 p4p. It won't make it true, but whatever.

I just think it's hilarious that people have the gall to criticize Floyd for fighting DLH and Hatton, but think it's perfectly ok for Cotto to fight Gomez and Margarito.

[Scott9945]

You make me laugh. Margarito is a crude brawler. There's a dearth of upper echelon Mexican fighters and a disproportionate number of fans who are Mexican. So, there's bound to be one or two Mexican fighter who are over-rated. Margarito is the one. Cotto will beat him convincingly and then some will claim he is the deserving #1 p4p. It won't make it true, but whatever.

I just think it's hilarious that people have the gall to criticize Floyd for fighting DLH and Hatton, but think it's perfectly ok for Cotto to fight Gomez and Margarito.

So you'd pick Hatton to beat Margarito? You wouldn't have much problem getting action on that bet.

[javelin_fangs]

Margarito would run Oscar out of the ring. That's why you'll never hear even mention his name. In his prime it might be a different story. In 2008 Margarito beats the crap out of DLH.

No he wouldn't. Margarito would get KO'd just like Mayorga did. Look I don't even like little girly voice Oscar, but he's a different class of fighter than Margarito. Margarito only beats fringe contenders, guy who don't like to get hit or lower level contenders. When has a guy with Margarito's style beaten Oscar? Oscar obliterates guys like Margarito. Arum matches Margarito very carefully. Why do you think he turned down Winky and Vernon? Why do you think he strongly advised Margarito against Paul Williams? It's not rocket science.

[2501]

I just think it's hilarious that people have the gall to criticize Floyd for fighting DLH and Hatton, but think it's perfectly ok for Cotto to fight Gomez and Margarito.

so who else should Cotto fight then? Quintana? Mosley? Judah? he's already beaten most of the top 6 Welters. Margo is one of them so how is that an equivalent to what Floyd has done when Floyd has had OPTIONS?

I just think it's hilarious that people have the gall to say Cotto needs to raise his PPV stock in order for Floyd to even CONSIDER him, but don't want him to do it against the fighters that would help him do that.

Tell me Javelin, would Clottey or Williams bring more PPV buys for Cotto than Margarito? You seem pretty knowledgeable about the sport so do you honestly believe this is not a quality fight given Cotto and Margo's styles?

[javelin_fangs]

So you'd pick Hatton to beat Margarito? You wouldn't have much problem getting action on that bet.

Hatton is a million times better than Gomez and DLH is much better than Margarito. Put Hatton and DLH on anyone's ledger and that's two career defining wins that could get you in the HOF. Gomez and Margarito don't improve Cotto's standing at all.

On July 27th Cotto will still be equally qualified to fight either Oscar or Floyd as he was on Nov. 11th, 2007. The ONLY DIFFERENCE is that Cotto will be more marketable...kind of how Floyd was after beating Gatti and Baldomir. But those aren't really close to Floyd's best wins. Same goes for Cotto with Gomez and Margarito.

[AntonTheMeh]

You make me laugh. Margarito is a crude brawler. There's a dearth of upper echelon Mexican fighters and a disproportionate number of fans who are Mexican. So, there's bound to be one or two Mexican fighter who are over-rated. Margarito is the one. Cotto will beat him convincingly and then some will claim he is the deserving #1 p4p. It won't make it true, but whatever.

I just think it's hilarious that people have the gall to criticize Floyd for fighting DLH and Hatton, but think it's perfectly ok for Cotto to fight Gomez and Margarito.

you want comic relief look between your legs.like i've said before who ever fights floyd will fight him at the right time for everybody,floyd is doing his little bull**** on the side that you floyd boys correlate to jesus's miracles.collazo proved hatton don't belong at 147.anyone who thought any different is a fool.he gets rep for giving oscar the advantages he did at his weight class,and he lost that rep asking for a rematch of a ****ing fight he won.

[javelin_fangs]

so who else should Cotto fight then? Quintana? Mosley? Judah? he's already beaten most of the top 6 Welters. Margo is one of them so how is that an equivalent to what Floyd has done when Floyd has had OPTIONS?

I just think it's hilarious that people have the gall to say Cotto needs to raise his PPV stock in order for Floyd to even CONSIDER him, but don't want him to do it against the fighters that would help him do that.

Tell me Javelin, would Clottey or Williams bring more PPV buys for Cotto than Margarito? You seem pretty knowledgeable about the sport so do you honestly believe this is not a quality fight given Cotto and Margo's styles?

Ok man...I'm still pretty new on this board so maybe you're not familiar with my posts. I'll let this arrogant post on your part slide for now. But please keep in mind I have NEVER said that Cotto needs to do ANYTHING to EARN a shot at Floyd.

Do you remember the post ANTON THE GREAT posted the other day talking about "they got a gun to your head; what fight would you make?" I picked Mayweather-Cotto. That's the fight I want to see. That's the ONLY fight that matter at 147 lb. EVERYONE else at 147 is on a level below.

I understand the business end of this very well. Gomez and Margarito low risk, high reward fights for Cotto and after his 2007 schedule he has every right to take those type of fights. BUT it's pure hypocrisy to get on a soap box sermonizing about how Floyd should not fight his lowest risk, highest reward fights while giving Cotto a pass for fighting even lower risk, higher reward fights. It's pure utter hypocrisy. Nothing more, nothing less.

I'm not calling you out. So, I suggest you not call me out or put words in my mouth.