Half-Point Scoring

[Fox McCloud]

Even though Chad Dawson might have won more rounds, doesn't it seem like Johnson clearly beat Dawson up more than he got beat up?

A fight like this would have likely gone to Johnson had half-point scoring been in session, and since Johnson actually did more damage throughout the fight (and it was actually spread out over quite a few rounds), that probably wouldn't be a bad thing.

Other fights that would support half point scoring would be Taylor-Hopkins I and Williams-Margarito.

I seriously think this is a decent idea for boxing. Some sort of change for boxing is necessary IMO.

[Bhopreign]

Thats why boxing is a sport that you get points for scoring. If this was a backyard fight Johnson would have gotten the win, but since its boxing, Dawson got the win and deservingly so.

[Fox McCloud]

Thats why boxing is a sport that you get points for scoring. If this was a backyard fight Johnson would have gotten the win, but since its boxing, Dawson got the win and deservingly so.

You really think it is good that a round in which Johnson had Dawson covering up for 30 seconds because he was extremely hurt should be scored the same as a round where Dawson barely got the nod for jabbing a few extra times with Johnson not really even feeling them?

I still think round-by-round is important, but scoring every round that isn't a knockdown or 3 minutes of having someone out on their feet the same way isn't a good system.

Round 1 of Johnson-Dawson was scored the same as round 4 of Cotto-Gomez. Does that make a bit of sense? Not much IMO.

[Bhopreign]

You really think it is good that a round in which Johnson had Dawson covering up for 30 seconds because he was extremely hurt should be scored the same as a round where Dawson barely got the nod for jabbing a few extra times with Johnson not really even feeling them?

I still think round-by-round is important, but scoring every round that isn't a knockdown or 3 minutes of having someone out on their feet the same way isn't a good system.

Round 1 of Johnson-Dawson was scored the same as round 4 of Cotto-Gomez. Does that make a bit of sense? Not much IMO.

I really dont get what youre saying, the round that Johnson had Dawson on ***** street, the 11th I think, should have gone to Johnson. There were rounds where Dawson landed alot and Johnson landed a good shot that hurt Dawson, depends on how much work Dawson put in before and after being hurt determines in my book who Id give the round to.

[FRKO]

If that fight had been a couple of rounds longer Dawson would have been outta there.

And yes, half point scoring is a good idea.

[Silencers]

I dislike half point scoring, they used to use it in the UK and I thought it was pretty bad. The points system now is fine IMO, they just need to find more competent officials.

[FRKO]

I dislike half point scoring, they used to use it in the UK and I thought it was pretty bad. The points system now is fine IMO, they just need to find more competent officials.

Yea, good point.

[Fox McCloud]

I really dont get what youre saying, the round that Johnson had Dawson on ***** street, the 11th I think, should have gone to Johnson. There were rounds where Dawson landed alot and Johnson landed a good shot that hurt Dawson, depends on how much work Dawson put in before and after being hurt determines in my book who Id give the round to.

Here's the 2 scenarios I will use to try to make it more clear what I am trying to say:

1. Slick Ass Boxer lands 7 jabs and 2 straight right hands, but none of the punches have any real power, and don't bother his opponent. In return, his opponent lands a jab and 2 power shots, which have okay power, but not enough to make up the deficit of jabs that were landed on him. 10-9 to Slick Ass Boxer.

2. Pressure Fighter lands 4 jabs and 18 power shots, most of which did at least effective damage on his opponent. He had his opponent momentarily stunned from a body shot, and had his opponent on ***** street for about 30 minutes with a left hook to the chin. His opponent covered up, but still got hit with quite a few shots. In return, his opponent landed 5 jabs and 6 power shots, but none had the power that Pressure Fighter's punches had. Although the opponent was hurt in the round, he wasn't hurt enough to justify a 10-8 round, because you literally have to get beaten to death for all 3 minutes to have a 10-8 round without a knockdown. 10-9 to Pressure Fighter.

In what world does it seem that it is okay that those two rounds are scored the same? Why does Slick Ass Boxer get the same amount of scoring for his performance that can be described as "just enough to get by" compared to how well Pressure Fighter did when he hurt his opponent more than once, and had some bad intentions in his punches?

That is why I think half-point scoring needs to be in effect, so Slick Ass Boxer won his round 10-9.5, and Pressure Fighter won his round 10-9. That way, Pressure Fighter gets adequate credit for hurting his opponent and actually convincingly and decisively winning the round beyond the point of any doubt, and Slick Ass Boxer gets a score that shows that he merely "did enough to get by".

Am I right?

[Bhopreign]

I dont think a guy has to get nearly beat to death in a round without a knockdown to score it 10-8. Just needs to be a dominating round perhaps with the fighter getting hurt in my book, but I think scoring with the option of half point rounds would only add more controversy to the way judging is already, it would give a judge more leeway for erroneous judging in his interpretation of a fight. JMO.

[Fox McCloud]

I dont think a guy has to get nearly beat to death in a round without a knockdown to score it 10-8. Just needs to be a dominating round perhaps with the fighter getting hurt in my book, but I think scoring with the option of half point rounds would only add more controversy to the way judging is already, it would give a judge more leeway for erroneous judging in his interpretation of a fight. JMO.

Some people thought Vazquez-Marquez III round 12 should not have been a 10-8 round before the knockdown.

You know that if a screwjob is lined up, it is going to be done, no matter how they have to do it. Would half-point scoring have made Casamayor-Santa Cruz any less controversial? I doubt it.