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  • Briandl
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    #31
    10-10 scoring would accomplish the same thing, if neither fighter does enough to win the round in the judges opinion, they can score it 10-10, when a fighter does do enough it's 10-9

    10-8 scoring would also accomplish the same thing.

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    • Fox McCloud
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      #32
      Originally posted by Briandl
      10-10 scoring would accomplish the same thing, if neither fighter does enough to win the round in the judges opinion, they can score it 10-10, when a fighter does do enough it's 10-9

      10-8 scoring would also accomplish the same thing.
      Someone can jab their opponent 10 times in a round to their opponent's five.

      Margarito can also land 40 power shots to Cintron's 12.

      Neither warrants a 10-10, or a 10-8 round, but I cannot think of a single justification for giving the jabber the same type of credit that Margarito deserves.

      10-9.5 compared to 10-9 would accomplish that.

      Literally all we have now is, 10-10 (100% even), 10-8 (near-death wipeout) or 10-9 (everything else). There is a lot of everything else that should be spread out to a couple of different options.

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      • miron_lang
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        #33
        Originally posted by DWiens421
        You really think it is good that a round in which Johnson had Dawson covering up for 30 seconds because he was extremely hurt should be scored the same as a round where Dawson barely got the nod for jabbing a few extra times with Johnson not really even feeling them?
        Thats the 10pt must system. w/c i think is the ideal at the moment. an even round is discouraged but its not againts the rule. maybe an even shoulnt be discouraged anymore.

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          #34
          HHHmmmmm

          now that i think about it more. I think its a good idea.


          good one DWiens421.

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          • Dirt E Gomez
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            #35
            There's a lot of things wrong w/ boxing's scoring system and I don't think .5's will fix it.

            The key is to fix it so judges score on the same system. Yes, rounds are somewhat objective, but there needs to be a more universally recognized way for scoring rounds. There are points to score on... effective aggression, clean effective punching, ring generalship, etc.... but how do you weight all of these?

            New rules for how you judge the fight are more important than the scores.

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            • Fox McCloud
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              #36
              In the past two weeks, there have been two fights that would have benefitted from half-point scoring.

              Dawson won more rounds, Johnson did more damage. Dawson got the decision.

              Calzaghe won more rounds, Hopkins did more damage. Calzaghe got the decision.

              I still don't know why everyone is so opposed to a change in scoring that at least allows more options than 10-9 or 9-10...

              I think both Johnson and Hopkins do have a viable argument that they won the fight, but not under this scoring system. If they fixed the scoring system, both of them probably would have deserved the decision.

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              • raysan
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                #37
                Originally posted by DWiens421
                In the past two weeks, there have been two fights that would have benefitted from half-point scoring.

                Dawson won more rounds, Johnson did more damage. Dawson got the decision.

                Calzaghe won more rounds, Hopkins did more damage. Calzaghe got the decision.

                I still don't know why everyone is so opposed to a change in scoring that at least allows more options than 10-9 or 9-10...

                I think both Johnson and Hopkins do have a viable argument that they won the fight, but not under this scoring system. If they fixed the scoring system, both of them probably would have deserved the decision.

                Because it would be easier to explain a 1/2 round, and robberies would be more rampant. Of course if everything was perfect, fights would benefit from half points, no one is debating that, but the main problem is judges scores for the same fight would be all over the place and it would be easier to rob someone.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by raysan
                  Because it would be easier to explain a 1/2 round, and robberies would be more rampant. Of course if everything was perfect, fights would benefit from half points, no one is debating that, but the main problem is judges scores for the same fight would be all over the place and it would be easier to rob someone.
                  Like I said, if a robbery is going to happen, it's going to happen, no matter what system is in place.

                  Do you think the current system acted as any deterrent in Casamayor-Santa Cruz?

                  The judges who rob fighters will always find a way to spin it somehow. Seriously, how many robberies get overturned anyway? I don't think there would be any difference in the realm of robberies from the half-point system.

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