Explain to me how Dawson got "exposed" or was "overrated

[Crazylegs77]

It cant be explained.

[Fox McCloud]

Chad Dawson was overrated by some on here, who thought that he was seriously the next coming of God.

He still is an excellent offensive machine (looked a bit like Meldrick Taylor offensively), but his defense definately has holes in it, moreso than it should for someone who doesn't have a terrific chin, and relies on landing more than his opponent, because he really isn't the strongest fighter at 175.

Glen Johnson showed how ridiculously underrated he was though at 39 years old. He looked terrific.

[Briandl]

He ran too much to impress me...

[HeartAttack]

He ran too much to impress me...

RAN, wow he didn't run. He got on his horse a little in the 6th and 7th, but he didn't run. And it was a close fight but no robbery. I can see it 7-5 either way or a draw and be fine with that. Johnson played to the crowd the entire fight and won them over so when a close fight went against him, the crowd showed no mercy. That was the best action-packed light heavyweight fight in years.

[Bhopreign]

Dawson's problem lies in the fact that he is not a natural lefty. His foot work isnt that good, if you watch, he squares up a whole lot when he turns. He doesnt keep his left foot back in position alot of the times, Johnson landed flush straight right hands to the body because of this.

[Thread Stealer]

Because according to boxing message board logic, you are "exposed" once you have an off-night or show that you are beatable.

Felix Trinidad reigns as a world champ for 8 years in 3 weight classes, then he loses to a great fighter. Everyone goes,

"Tito got EXPOSED!!"

[Degsy]

Because according to boxing message board logic, you are "exposed" once you have an off-night or show that you are beatable.

Felix Trinidad reigns as a world champ for 8 years in 3 weight classes, then he loses to a great fighter. Everyone goes,

"Tito got EXPOSED!!"

Very true re Tito, he didn't get exposed full stop, the only thing that got exposed was that he was not a middleweight, that shouldn't take away any of his achievements at the lower weights. He won a middleweight championship against an average fighter and then lost to a great.

The Chad fight as I have said before comes down to how you personally judge a fight, if you give more weight to the fighter taking the risks coming forward then the 50:50 rounds go to Glen, if you think that fighting skillfully on the back foot is of equal or greater peformance then those 50:50 rounds go to Chad that's the element of subjectivity in judging. A good example of too many points being awarded for going forward came in the Tarver Woods fight where one judge only gave it to Tarver by four (In my opinion, British though I am, I thought Tarver won it by ten minimum) Woods was following Tarver around getting his head boxed off and yet that going forward seemed to reduce the points margin to 4 rounds!!!!! If Glen had that judge, he would have won the fight, the British Judge from the Tarver fight would have given it to Chad....

Unless someone gets owned close fights will always split the posters on this board, we all like different things from our fighters and we tend to score close rounds on the basis of those likes and dislikes

[Thread Stealer]

Very true re Tito, he didn't get exposed full stop, the only thing that got exposed was that he was not a middleweight, that shouldn't take away any of his achievements at the lower weights. He won a middleweight championship against an average fighter and then lost to a great.

I really don't think it would've made that much of a difference though if Hopkins and Trinidad were the same size. Hopkins fought cautiously in the early going and used his boxing skills, rather than his size. He did a good job of defending against Trinidad's hard shots. He practically had that right hand glued to his cheek to avoid the left hooks.

I give Tito more credit for the Joppy win (and therefore, Hopkins for the Tito win). Joppy was regarded as the 2nd best MW in the world at the time. Tito destroyed him in his first bout @ 160. It was his most dominating performance in a big fight.

[oldgringo]

I really don't think it would've made that much of a difference though if Hopkins and Trinidad were the same size. Hopkins fought cautiously in the early going and used his boxing skills, rather than his size. He did a good job of defending against Trinidad's hard shots. He practically had that right hand glued to his cheek to avoid the left hooks.

I give Tito more credit for the Joppy win (and therefore, Hopkins for the Tito win). Joppy was regarded as the 2nd best MW in the world at the time. Tito destroyed him in his first bout @ 160. It was his most dominating performance in a big fight.

Which is why I laugh every time folks use the, "Tito was a blown up Welterweight who was later exposed" blah blah to discredit Hopkins' win. Obviously he started at 147, but Trinidad was a legitimate threat at 160 back then. He absolutely smoked Joppy.

I agree with the first part as well. Hopkins was all wrong for Trinidad regardless of weight. Only thing that might change is Tito making it to the final bell.

[GodOfWar]

It cant be explained.

My gif images in my sig explain it, he gets hit way too much. Calzaghe or Hopkins would have a field day with Chad Fraud Dawson