COTTO Understand The CONSEQUENCES of Calling Out MAYWEATHER, that's why he WONT DO IT

[Horus]

The DLH fight is done and over with. FLoyd is the self proclaimed "mega star".

Instead of carrying PPVs on his own name like a real "mega star" does, better known as Oscar De La Hoya,

he retires without defending his championship against any of the top 10 contenders at welter weight.

Game over.[/COLOR][/B]

reply to the SPECIFIC post....better yet read it....

Check Mate.!

[JAB5239]

The DLH fight is done and over with. FLoyd is the self proclaimed "mega star".

Instead of carrying PPVs on his own name like a real "mega star" does, better known as Oscar De La Hoya,

he retires without defending his championship against any of the top 10 contenders at welter weight.

Game over.[/COLOR][/B]

The beatings will continue until moral improves!!

[Boofdatruth]

For you and the slob Psycho


The Wait Lengthens for Margarito
By Steve Kim (November 9, 2005) Photo © German Villasenor

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Warning: to any fighter like WBO welterweight champion Antonio Margarito, who is scheduled to fight on any undercard featuring Vitali Klitschko - make sure you have a contingency plan.

When 'Brittle-ly' damaged his right knee late last week, he didn't just hobble himself, but also fighters like Margarito and WBA junior bantamweight titlist Martin Castillo, who were supposed to be featured performers on the televised portion of the pay-per-view undercard.

As of now, both standout Mexicans are in limbo.

"I don't know, I really don't know," was the answer of a beleaguered Bob Arum, when he was asked by MaxBoxing on Tuesday morning what he had in mind for the duo. "I'm trying, but I can't do everything at the same time. We're trying to do the right thing, find a place for them but you've got to give me time."

Arum sounds frazzled as he says this. It's been a stressful time at Top Rank, which put up over $12 million to win the purse bid for Klitschko's title defense of his WBC belt against Hasim Rahman. Arum and his staff had worked tirelessly to promote the event, which was scheduled for the Thomas and Mack Arena in Las Vegas.

The WBC has granted Klitschko a 60-day reprieve to once again find a way to drop out of his next scheduled date against Rahman.

But now, Arum has to find dates for guys like Margarito, who hasn't fought since late April, when he blew out the previously undefeated Kermit Cintron. He had pitched to have his scheduled bout against Manny Gomez to be added to HBO's telecast of Floyd Mayweather's bout against Sharmba Mitchell on November 19th.

That pitch was rejected."They had a movie," explained a perturbed, Arum. "I don't know, I don't understand. I think they're making a big mistake because I think it could've helped that card, but hey, I don't run that network."

So now, Margarito is a fighter without a fight. The news of Klitschko's latest ailment hit them hard.

"We all got down, especially Antonio, because this was a big event," said his co-manager, Sergio Diaz, on Tuesday. "We know it's a big pay-per-view, it's a good opportunity for us to be on a big event like this. We got the news and it just brought all of us down. Especially Antonio, because he had been training so hard, making the weight, the sparring, the time being away from his house and country.

"When we gave him the news it just depressed all of us."

At this time last week, Margarito was in camp preparing for Gomez. While it wasn't the fight he wanted, it was still a significant showcase coming off his watershed win over Cintron.

"I feel proud of that outcome, people were talking about his punch, people were talking about his undefeated record, the big Puerto Rican, and I showed everybody what I was made of," he said last week, through his manager, in South El Monte. "Unfortunately, the bigger fights didn't come after this. We were looking for Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather, they didn't come."

It's been a frustrating process for Margarito's management and Top Rank in getting a significant name to sign on the dotted line to face the tough native of Tijuana.

Diaz believes that their promotional company has been diligent in trying to make the lucrative bouts.

"I really do believe them, especially with the money that was offered to Mayweather and Bob came out and spoke about it and the media heard it. So I really think it was something serious and unfortunately Mayweather didn't want to take the fight."

Arum and Diaz say that the 'Pretty Boy' was offered in the neighborhood of $7 million to face Margarito. In what could best be described as a 'business move', the same guy who brazenly challenged the bigger Winky Wright decided to bypass Margarito, to collect nearly $4 million to spar with Sharmba Mitchell.

[Bad_Barracuda]

reply to the SPECIFIC post....better yet read it....

Check Mate.!

If Floyd's name was Floyd Martinez or Floyd Morales(and he were 10 shades lighter of course) the same haters would love him.

We know why they REALLY don't like Floyd.

[Boofdatruth]

The rest for you Psycho and the slob:


"Flat turned him down like you can not believe," Arum said of Mayweather when he was offered a chance at the WBO title. "Any time we raised his name, Mayweather went crazy."

Could it be that Mayweather will never get in the ring with him?

"I don't know, you never say never," said Arum last week in Los Angeles, where he was in town for Klitschko's open workout with the media. "Floyd is a very proud guy. The more people talk about all these guys ducking Margarito, of anybody, Floyd is the one who'll step up and say,'I'll face him'. He's a ballsy guy but his people have told him that Margarito is the most dangerous guy for him out there."

The veteran promoter said he was "shocked" that Mayweather would turn down such a payday. But Margarito believes that no matter what the price, Mayweather will avoid him.

"It was heard and it was a fact that Bob Arum offered him a lot of money. And this time it wasn't a question about the money. I really believe it's a question of Mayweather being afraid of fighting me. I have a welterweight title, why doesn't he want to fight me? It's not about the money, it's because he's afraid to face me."

Margarito also yearns for a shot at Zab Judah, who is the recognized welterweight kingpin.

"I don't know why that fight can't be made," he said. "Bob Arum has me, I have a big title. It's a Bob Arum-Don King thing but if I was Zab Judah I would definitely want that fourth title. I don't understand why Zab Judah doesn't want that fight."

But it seems that Judah has his eyes on Mayweather, and perhaps vice-versa. But that bout may be an impossibility to negotiate, not only with Arum and King involved, but the two huge egos of Mayweather and Judah.

"That's Floyd's number one priority, Zab Judah," Arum said last week. "Will that fight happen? I'm not sanguine about it because of Don King's demands. He's got to realize that the attraction is Floyd Mayweather, that Floyd's been the guy who's been on HBO and Zab has had trouble getting money in fights. So that has to be reflected in any deal."

2005 has been a frustrating one for Margarito. His two bouts of the year were actually promoted by Main Events and the Gomez fight was supposed to catapult him into bigger and better things for 2006.

"Our goal is to fight a mega-fight," stated Diaz. "To be up there with the big boys. We're looking for anybody from the Mayweathers, for Judah, for Cotto - any of those fighters."

But you get the sense - at least for the time being - that he will be on the outside looking in at the marquee bouts. In many ways, he could be Winky Wright, circa
2001.

"The difference between Margarito and Wright is frankly, ethnic," said HBO analyst, Larry Merchant, who like many others had his plans changed for this weekend. "You would think that a fighter as good and as tough and as exciting as Margarito would build up a following that would give him leverage in order to attract opponents. That hasn't happened, yet.

"He's still relatively young, so presumably it could happen," he said of the 28-year old grinder. "But right now he's in the position where, 'What's the payoff for fighting him?' For the top challengers, if they're going to fight the toughest guy on the street, they want to make sure they can make the most money."

Wright eventually broke through to the next level by downing Shane Mosley twice and then Felix Trinidad. But maybe Margarito will end up as this generation's Mike McCallum, who never got that breakthrough fight.

"I just don't know, because the way Latinos and especially Mexican fighters have dominated the sport recently, you would think that a fighter like him would eventually strike a chord and attract a following," said Merchant, who compares the plight of Margarito to another pair of Mexicans who were once promoted by Arum not too long ago. "Some Latino fighters like the Marquez brothers, for example, have never built a large following. But there are extenuating circumstances because one is a bantamweight and one's a featherweight in an age where there have been more famous featherweights.

"So I don't know if the Margarito question is resolved yet. My guess is that eventually one of the top welterweights will face him on the feeling that it would become a very attractive fight."

But Arum thinks that his situation is similar to a fighter he once promoted from out of obscurity to the big time - Marvin Hagler.

"He's too good, he's too good for his own good," he says of Margarito. "I think he's far and away the best welterweight out there."

His manager agrees with that, but says, "Y'know what? We just won't take that as an excuse anymore. We have a very good promoter, we have a promoter that has a lot of money and we know our promoter can make these fights. Now, it's something they're not doing for some reason. They're putting their money on other fighters but I think they're losing money by not putting their money on Antonio."

Arum says he may do just that to get Margarito the fights he wants in the upcoming year.

"That's a real tough thing and I may have to overpay to get guys to fight him," he said. "But I'm not going to let this happen to a guy that people won't fight because he's too good. That's just wrong."

Diaz says that Margarito would be receptive to being rescheduled on a Telefutura card to finish out the year, not wanting to have this past training camp go to waste. But as you look ahead to 2006, fights involving Shane Mosley-Fernando Vargas and Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Vargas are being finalized.

"Definitely, it worries me," admits Margarito. "Having to wait all this time and finding out these fighters are possibly going to fight - nothing's 100 percent till the contract's signed - but the word is out there that these people are going to fight each other. But I'm definitely worried because I know I'm going to have to wait even longer."

Maybe he'll get a fight by the time Klitschko actually steps into the ring.

[Boofdatruth]

If Floyd's name was Floyd Martinez or Floyd Morales(and he were 10 shades lighter of course) the same haters would love him.

We know why they REALLY don't like Floyd.

Both Psycho and his new friend said that Arum offered Floyd 8 mil. This is Steve Kim reporting. How could Arum guarantee 8 mil as they said with a no name like margs when Judah and Gatti had bigger names, and he only made 6 or less fighting those guys who had names? Margs might've deserved the fight, but Floyd didn't have to fight him, and Arum never even talked to Floyd about this offer. He just offered it up. Why, because he knew Floyd wanted to do his own thing like Dlh did. I already know the JAB character is a bigot.

[JAB5239]

For you and the slob Psycho


The Wait Lengthens for Margarito
By Steve Kim (November 9, 2005) Photo © German Villasenor

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Warning: to any fighter like WBO welterweight champion Antonio Margarito, who is scheduled to fight on any undercard featuring Vitali Klitschko - make sure you have a contingency plan.

When 'Brittle-ly' damaged his right knee late last week, he didn't just hobble himself, but also fighters like Margarito and WBA junior bantamweight titlist Martin Castillo, who were supposed to be featured performers on the televised portion of the pay-per-view undercard.

As of now, both standout Mexicans are in limbo.

"I don't know, I really don't know," was the answer of a beleaguered Bob Arum, when he was asked by MaxBoxing on Tuesday morning what he had in mind for the duo. "I'm trying, but I can't do everything at the same time. We're trying to do the right thing, find a place for them but you've got to give me time."

Arum sounds frazzled as he says this. It's been a stressful time at Top Rank, which put up over $12 million to win the purse bid for Klitschko's title defense of his WBC belt against Hasim Rahman. Arum and his staff had worked tirelessly to promote the event, which was scheduled for the Thomas and Mack Arena in Las Vegas.

The WBC has granted Klitschko a 60-day reprieve to once again find a way to drop out of his next scheduled date against Rahman.

But now, Arum has to find dates for guys like Margarito, who hasn't fought since late April, when he blew out the previously undefeated Kermit Cintron. He had pitched to have his scheduled bout against Manny Gomez to be added to HBO's telecast of Floyd Mayweather's bout against Sharmba Mitchell on November 19th.

That pitch was rejected."They had a movie," explained a perturbed, Arum. "I don't know, I don't understand. I think they're making a big mistake because I think it could've helped that card, but hey, I don't run that network."

So now, Margarito is a fighter without a fight. The news of Klitschko's latest ailment hit them hard.

"We all got down, especially Antonio, because this was a big event," said his co-manager, Sergio Diaz, on Tuesday. "We know it's a big pay-per-view, it's a good opportunity for us to be on a big event like this. We got the news and it just brought all of us down. Especially Antonio, because he had been training so hard, making the weight, the sparring, the time being away from his house and country.

"When we gave him the news it just depressed all of us."

At this time last week, Margarito was in camp preparing for Gomez. While it wasn't the fight he wanted, it was still a significant showcase coming off his watershed win over Cintron.

"I feel proud of that outcome, people were talking about his punch, people were talking about his undefeated record, the big Puerto Rican, and I showed everybody what I was made of," he said last week, through his manager, in South El Monte. "Unfortunately, the bigger fights didn't come after this. We were looking for Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather, they didn't come."

It's been a frustrating process for Margarito's management and Top Rank in getting a significant name to sign on the dotted line to face the tough native of Tijuana.

Diaz believes that their promotional company has been diligent in trying to make the lucrative bouts.

"I really do believe them, especially with the money that was offered to Mayweather and Bob came out and spoke about it and the media heard it. So I really think it was something serious and unfortunately Mayweather didn't want to take the fight."

Arum and Diaz say that the 'Pretty Boy' was offered in the neighborhood of $7 million to face Margarito. In what could best be described as a 'business move', the same guy who brazenly challenged the bigger Winky Wright decided to bypass Margarito, to collect nearly $4 million to spar with Sharmba Mitchell.

Lmao!! This is the same old ass article you posted on the other thread. Quit trying to pass of **** like you've actually done some research. Fact is, Floyd never took on a welterweight threat in 3 years outside of Judah. NOTHING your sorry ass can post is going to change that.

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The rest for you Psycho and the slob:


"Flat turned him down like you can not believe," Arum said of Mayweather when he was offered a chance at the WBO title. "Any time we raised his name, Mayweather went crazy."

Could it be that Mayweather will never get in the ring with him?

"I don't know, you never say never," said Arum last week in Los Angeles, where he was in town for Klitschko's open workout with the media. "Floyd is a very proud guy. The more people talk about all these guys ducking Margarito, of anybody, Floyd is the one who'll step up and say,'I'll face him'. He's a ballsy guy but his people have told him that Margarito is the most dangerous guy for him out there."

The veteran promoter said he was "shocked" that Mayweather would turn down such a payday. But Margarito believes that no matter what the price, Mayweather will avoid him.

"It was heard and it was a fact that Bob Arum offered him a lot of money. And this time it wasn't a question about the money. I really believe it's a question of Mayweather being afraid of fighting me. I have a welterweight title, why doesn't he want to fight me? It's not about the money, it's because he's afraid to face me."

Margarito also yearns for a shot at Zab Judah, who is the recognized welterweight kingpin.

"I don't know why that fight can't be made," he said. "Bob Arum has me, I have a big title. It's a Bob Arum-Don King thing but if I was Zab Judah I would definitely want that fourth title. I don't understand why Zab Judah doesn't want that fight."

But it seems that Judah has his eyes on Mayweather, and perhaps vice-versa. But that bout may be an impossibility to negotiate, not only with Arum and King involved, but the two huge egos of Mayweather and Judah.

"That's Floyd's number one priority, Zab Judah," Arum said last week. "Will that fight happen? I'm not sanguine about it because of Don King's demands. He's got to realize that the attraction is Floyd Mayweather, that Floyd's been the guy who's been on HBO and Zab has had trouble getting money in fights. So that has to be reflected in any deal."

2005 has been a frustrating one for Margarito. His two bouts of the year were actually promoted by Main Events and the Gomez fight was supposed to catapult him into bigger and better things for 2006.

"Our goal is to fight a mega-fight," stated Diaz. "To be up there with the big boys. We're looking for anybody from the Mayweathers, for Judah, for Cotto - any of those fighters."

But you get the sense - at least for the time being - that he will be on the outside looking in at the marquee bouts. In many ways, he could be Winky Wright, circa
2001.

"The difference between Margarito and Wright is frankly, ethnic," said HBO analyst, Larry Merchant, who like many others had his plans changed for this weekend. "You would think that a fighter as good and as tough and as exciting as Margarito would build up a following that would give him leverage in order to attract opponents. That hasn't happened, yet.

"He's still relatively young, so presumably it could happen," he said of the 28-year old grinder. "But right now he's in the position where, 'What's the payoff for fighting him?' For the top challengers, if they're going to fight the toughest guy on the street, they want to make sure they can make the most money."

Wright eventually broke through to the next level by downing Shane Mosley twice and then Felix Trinidad. But maybe Margarito will end up as this generation's Mike McCallum, who never got that breakthrough fight.

"I just don't know, because the way Latinos and especially Mexican fighters have dominated the sport recently, you would think that a fighter like him would eventually strike a chord and attract a following," said Merchant, who compares the plight of Margarito to another pair of Mexicans who were once promoted by Arum not too long ago. "Some Latino fighters like the Marquez brothers, for example, have never built a large following. But there are extenuating circumstances because one is a bantamweight and one's a featherweight in an age where there have been more famous featherweights.

"So I don't know if the Margarito question is resolved yet. My guess is that eventually one of the top welterweights will face him on the feeling that it would become a very attractive fight."

But Arum thinks that his situation is similar to a fighter he once promoted from out of obscurity to the big time - Marvin Hagler.

"He's too good, he's too good for his own good," he says of Margarito. "I think he's far and away the best welterweight out there."

His manager agrees with that, but says, "Y'know what? We just won't take that as an excuse anymore. We have a very good promoter, we have a promoter that has a lot of money and we know our promoter can make these fights. Now, it's something they're not doing for some reason. They're putting their money on other fighters but I think they're losing money by not putting their money on Antonio."

Arum says he may do just that to get Margarito the fights he wants in the upcoming year.

"That's a real tough thing and I may have to overpay to get guys to fight him," he said. "But I'm not going to let this happen to a guy that people won't fight because he's too good. That's just wrong."

Diaz says that Margarito would be receptive to being rescheduled on a Telefutura card to finish out the year, not wanting to have this past training camp go to waste. But as you look ahead to 2006, fights involving Shane Mosley-Fernando Vargas and Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Vargas are being finalized.

"Definitely, it worries me," admits Margarito. "Having to wait all this time and finding out these fighters are possibly going to fight - nothing's 100 percent till the contract's signed - but the word is out there that these people are going to fight each other. But I'm definitely worried because I know I'm going to have to wait even longer."

Maybe he'll get a fight by the time Klitschko actually steps into the ring.

WOW.....Thanks for the Post..!!

I never read this before
Good ****

[Vasyl’s dad]

Facts.

Floyd retired without fighting the best in the welterweight division.

According to you stans, Floyd has the power to call the shots.


So by their logic Floyd being the money man that he is, can make any fight he wants. He even told one man, "you'll get your shot".


Here we are on July 10th, 2008 and where is Floyd?


Retired without having faced any of the best welters of his day.

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