Poll: David Haye vs James Toney

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  • Zerwas1
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    #11
    Maybe it has something to do with Iran Barkley being not as good as Jones, but just maybe

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    • slicksouthpaw16
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      #12
      Originally posted by Zerwas1
      Maybe it has something to do with Iran Barkley being not as good as Jones, but just maybe
      Or maybe its the fact that Toney had to be hospitalized and hooked up to Ivs before the fight so he wouldn't pass out. Again, look at the size difference in both fights.

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        #13
        Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
        Or maybe its the fact that Toney had to be hospitalized and hooked up to Ivs before the fight so he wouldn't pass out. Again, look at the size difference in both fights.

        I'm just saying that you can't compare the perfomance of a fighter by these two fights. C'mon Iran Barkley doesn't even throw a punch half as fast as Jones.

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        • Dynamite Kid
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          #14
          Originally posted by Cereal
          Who do you guys have winning this one in their respective primes at cruiserweight? David Haye brings to the table pure knockout power and a great skills set, whereas Toney's fighting abilities are nearly unparalleled in the game, and he enjoys an all time great chin and huge experience.

          Who ya got?
          the way Haye loads up with the right hand & follows through with it Toney would take his head off with counter right hands

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          • Pugilistic™
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            #15
            in his prime toney would win, now he gets destroyed

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            • slicksouthpaw16
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              #16
              Originally posted by Zerwas1
              I'm just saying that you can't compare the perfomance of a fighter by these two fights. C'mon Iran Barkley doesn't even throw a punch half as fast as Jones.

              Look at the difference in weight between these two fights. The point is that if Toney had come in shape when he fought Jones, he would have done much better and had a chance at beating him. Toney was actually smaller when he fought Barkley than in this video but they didn't have that video.

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              • THE REED
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                #17
                Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
                Or maybe its the fact that Toney had to be hospitalized and hooked up to Ivs before the fight so he wouldn't pass out. Again, look at the size difference in both fights.
                If he had to be hospitalized before the fight... they wouldnt let him fight... they JUST wouldnt

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Terrible...
                  the way Haye loads up with the right hand & follows through with it Toney would take his head off with counter right hands
                  BTW i dont mean Toney from today

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                  • slicksouthpaw16
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                    If he had to be hospitalized before the fight... they wouldnt let him fight... they JUST wouldnt
                    He had to be hooked up to Ivs when he was in his dressing room and was hospitalized shortly before. He weighed 214 LBS 2 weeks before the fight. He was killing himself to make the weight.

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                    • tredh
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Zerwas1
                      I'm just saying that you can't compare the perfomance of a fighter by these two fights. C'mon Iran Barkley doesn't even throw a punch half as fast as Jones.
                      Its not a performance comparison its shape comparison. What he is talking about is how Toney could perform when in proper SHAPE no matter who the opponent is. Nobody would compare Barkley to Jones jr.

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