How good is Antonio Tarver?

[Dark Destroyer]

Antonio Tarver is NOTHING exceptional at all and thats a fact. He beat a tired not interested Roy and he knows it himself. Glencoffe Johnson will beat Tarver down in my opinion. Johnson brings a different kind of fight to the ring and that is a fight for survival. Tarver hasn't even got a good style to be honest. His reign will be short lived but he'll always get credit for been the first man to stop a tired old Roy plain and simple.

[DR. FREECLOUD]

Antonio Tarver is NOTHING exceptional at all and thats a fact. He beat a tired not interested Roy and he knows it himself. Glencoffe Johnson will beat Tarver down in my opinion. Johnson brings a different kind of fight to the ring and that is a fight for survival. Tarver hasn't even got a good style to be honest. His reign will be short lived but he'll always get credit for been the first man to stop a tired old Roy plain and simple.

wez, (long pause, sigh) i have always enjoyed reading your posts. sometimes disagreeing with them, but non the less they are always good posts. i am not a big tarver fan and hope you are right about johnson. but i still don't think tarver is given the credit he is due. it gets old listening to people give excuses as to why someone gets beat by the better man. jones in my eyes was never the exeptional boxer. i guess its all opinions. i think johnson takes tarver out.

[Dark Destroyer]

wez, (long pause, sigh) i have always enjoyed reading your posts. sometimes disagreeing with them, but non the less they are always good posts. i am not a big tarver fan and hope you are right about johnson. but i still don't think tarver is given the credit he is due. it gets old listening to people give excuses as to why someone gets beat by the better man. jones in my eyes was never the exeptional boxer. i guess its all opinions. i think johnson takes tarver out.

Tarver is NOTHING good at all. I do give him credit for been the first man to beat Roy but apart from that i see a very dark future unless he build up some defenses fighting bums and avoiding the real men. How much credit does someone need? He beat an tired and not motivated Roy. Roy was a exceptional boxing in my opinion, he made mandatory challengers look like novices. You don't do that if your nothing exceptional. You don't outbox a prime James Toney if your not exceptional. You don't beat a prime Hopkins if your not a cut above the rest. Thats just my take on things.

Just for the record i thought Roy did enough to beat Tarver the first fight. How anyone could think those ****** ****ing flurries at the end of each round could win it for him need to read the boxing rules very carefully.

[DR. FREECLOUD]

Tarver is NOTHING good at all. I do give him credit for been the first man to beat Roy but apart from that i see a very dark future unless he build up some defenses fighting bums and avoiding the real men. How much credit does someone need? He beat an tired and not motivated Roy. Roy was a exceptional boxing in my opinion, he made mandatory challengers look like novices. You don't do that if your nothing exceptional. You don't outbox a prime James Toney if your not exceptional. You don't beat a prime Hopkins if your not a cut above the rest. Thats just my take on things.

Just for the record i thought Roy did enough to beat Tarver the first fight. How anyone could think those ****** ****ing flurries at the end of each round could win it for him need to read the boxing rules very carefully.

good enough. i respect your opinion. i just don't think b-hop was even close to prime. toney on the otherhand may have been but i never thought much of him either. as far as the 1st fight goes it could have gone either way.

[jabsRstiff]

Wez....

You're underrating Tarver.
Sure, the Jones he beat is not prime Roy Jones.....but I still think Roy would have handled any other 175lber but Tarver.
I believe Glen Johnson never beats Roy if Tarver doesn't.

[abdiel2k3]

Tarver is NOTHING good at all. I do give him credit for been the first man to beat Roy but apart from that i see a very dark future unless he build up some defenses fighting bums and avoiding the real men. How much credit does someone need? He beat an tired and not motivated Roy. Roy was a exceptional boxing in my opinion, he made mandatory challengers look like novices. You don't do that if your nothing exceptional. You don't outbox a prime James Toney if your not exceptional. You don't beat a prime Hopkins if your not a cut above the rest. Thats just my take on things.

Just for the record i thought Roy did enough to beat Tarver the first fight. How anyone could think those ****** ****ing flurries at the end of each round could win it for him need to read the boxing rules very carefully.

i also felt that roy did enough to get that win
he took control of the last couple rounds
plus all those flurries of tarver
they werent all solid connects
i think people just got caught up in the fact that he was being hit more then he normally gets hit
everyone was just really wanting to see roy finally loose
plus roy was nailen him with clean shots to the body through out the fight

[jabsRstiff]

Big Pappy....

At the time Roy beat Toney, you didn't think much of him ?

He was absolutely awesome at 168, at the time Roy beat him.

[jabsRstiff]

Roy won the first fight with tarver...but did get the worst of it in the punishment department.

That fight means nothing now....within less than two rounds, Roy was knocked silly by tarver.

The name of the game in boxing is knocking your opponent out.
If you guys think stepping in & concussing someone with one shot isn't impressive...

[Dark Destroyer]

Wez....

You're underrating Tarver.
Sure, the Jones he beat is not prime Roy Jones.....but I still think Roy would have handled any other 175lber but Tarver.
I believe Glen Johnson never beats Roy if Tarver doesn't.

Maybe i am a little but it's how i feel. I don't like the guys style or talents to be honest and it's not just because he beat Roy. I just think he got lucky and needs to count his blessings that he fought a unmotivated Roy and that he did have slightly more skill to beat him. Johnson will beat Tarver, Tarver won't know how to cope with a raging heartful fighter.

[Dark Destroyer]

i also felt that roy did enough to get that win
he took control of the last couple rounds
plus all those flurries of tarver
they werent all solid connects
i think people just got caught up in the fact that he was being hit more then he normally gets hit
everyone was just really wanting to see roy finally loose
plus roy was nailen him with clean shots to the body through out the fight

I agree 100%, you said it perfectly. People did want to see a great fighter lose and got all over excited over every single punch that Tarver threw.