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  • #71
    Originally posted by 2501 View Post
    of course, but your saying that there is no possible way. ive seen it with my own eyes.
    A crappy martial artist will lose to a professional boxer. A good one should not

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    • #72
      Originally posted by GodOfWar View Post
      Boxers can win with a gun, the leg is so much longer in reach then the arm that its not even funny. The leg also has more power in it if trained right
      that aint no lie man Muay Thai kicks hurt worse then anything, and I seen Mirko CroCops left high kick put dudes out cold.

      heavy perfect hard kicks can break bones with ease.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Word2ThaFive View Post
        In reality Pac has nothing left to prove with JMM, but I would love to see a third fight. But at this point it is at Pac disgression and no one can be mad at him. this would be a Third time for christ sake. If JMM blows it this time or even has a close fight where Pac edges him out you JMM fans bytchin about a robbery should all either retire from the forum or rock the silliest Avi in history.
        Pac most certainly does have a lot left to prove against Marquez. Apart from the knockdowns in either fight Marquez won probably about eighty percent of the rounds very clearly and many people still have him well ahead of Pacquiao in both fights. Pacquiao has the edge but no one can say that their business is finished. If anything, it is now more important that they fight again than it was the first time.

        Marquez has been the only guy of late, and he won't last much longer being 34 already, to be able to out-box Pacquiao and win the large majority of each fight only losing because he knocked down. To me, and everyone else...apart from you I guess, that means that a third absolutely must happen because they most certainly have something to prove.

        If anything I think Pac has more to prove now than he ever did. He was at times getting very clearly beaten by Marquez and by most peoples account was quite lucky to get away with a win. I think even the most hard-core Pac fans can see that there needs to be a third fight between these two because the last fight just put more questions up in the air and once again showed that Marquez can most certainly, and in many folks' estimation did, beat Pacquiao.

        Originally posted by loui_ludwig View Post
        Can Pac be knockout? Of course. He is human afterall.
        Human? You seem to forget that he has already been viciously knocked out cold twice and nearly a couple more times than that. Though I do believe that if they fight again it should be at the same weight they just fought at. Marquez is getting too old to move up again. He has lost a step and is more offensive now and that would not be the best way to go at Pac after moving up another weight.

        After all the concessions he made I do believe he deserves to get the fight, if they ever have it, at his proposed weight. Though that will never happen of course.

        Honestly though, aside from all the bitching, Pacquiao bias and Marquez hating, who here would rather see a fight between Diaz and Pac than Marquez and Pac? I know I certainly wouldn't!

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Domain View Post
          I just found it funny jmm would make even an excuse on a punch,...why cannot he say he just got caught now he is saying he will knock pacman out? wow! Even Morales never acted this way or barrera...this time I hope PAcman knocks his head off bad if Pacman is fresh at 135.
          uhm...
          JMM was only explaining how Pac's short left got him under the worst
          of circumstances: JMM was unknowingly turning to MEET Pac's punch.
          I thought it was a pretty straightforward analysis of the KD.

          That left wasn't Pac's bread-and-butter haymaker, but it floored JMM
          precisely because of JMM's optimized (for Pac's sake, that is)
          posture at the time of connection.

          Again, I'd like to see JMM go for a KO or KD versus Pac.
          A more aggressive attack vs. the likes of Pac will boost JMM's draw
          in the future, PPV and general-revenue wise.

          h.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by horge View Post
            uhm...
            JMM was only explaining how Pac's short left got him under the worst
            of circumstances: JMM was unknowingly turning to MEET Pac's punch.
            I thought it was a pretty straightforward analysis of the KD.
            thank you, the 20th time someone explains it and the sad thing is, Domain will ignore this and go into other threads claiming JMM was using an excuse.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by 2501 View Post
              thank you, the 20th time someone explains it and the sad thing is, Domain will ignore this and go into other threads claiming JMM was using an excuse.
              Man, some people are just a few cards short of a deck...penny short of a pound...know what I mean?

              It seems, as of late, whenever a boxer analyses his performance, defeat or knockdown it is seen as an excuse. I really don't know why people think that?

              I guess boxers aren't allowed to discuss their own fight.

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              • #77
                Im not sure why some people say Marquez wasn't pressing the fight when he did so on many occassions. Where he lacked was after he wobbled Pacquiao for the millionth time, he kept taking pictures. Of course after that knockdown im sure he knew he had to be a little more catious but even after he still pressed Pacquiao. Many times he forced Pacquiao to retreat and or forced him to retreat when Pacquiao was on the attack.

                Another thing is the only way Pacquiao ko's Marquez is if Marquez is too fat at 135 which can be the case with the extra weight.

                Marquez was hit flush by some of Pacquiao hardest shots in both there 1st and 2nd fight and in neither did Marquez stay on the floor. He got up, or never went down from the shot. So to say Pacqiao can ko Marquez after they went 24 rounds is admitting, Marquez is an old faded fighter. If Marquez can stop taking pictures after he hurt Pacquiao he has a great chance to knockdown or ko Pacqiao.

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                • #78
                  Pacquiao should stop fighting Mexicans.. All the excuses, crybabies and Mexican fans are an ASS...

                  I hope Pac fights other races and stop facing Mexicans.. Mexicans are crybabies and pretenders who always makes excuses on something without giving any credit to someone...

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Akatsuki View Post
                    Pacquiao should stop fighting Mexicans.. All the excuses, crybabies and Mexican fans are an ASS...

                    I hope Pac fights other races and stop facing Mexicans.. Mexicans are crybabies and pretenders who always makes excuses on something without giving any credit to someone...
                    you kow the funniest thing about the 3rd fight is that even though Manny won, pac fans were in full effect trying to discredit JMM because half of the boxing community thought he won.

                    "JMM IS A CRYBABY"
                    "LOOK JMM IS A CHEATER!!"
                    "JMM COULDNT EVEN KO PACQUIAO!!"

                    you guys were making more threads than jmm fans. you would think you guys would sit back and enjoy it but nope, any pacquiao related thread, you guys pop up like herpes.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Akatsuki View Post
                      Pacquiao should stop fighting Mexicans.. All the excuses, crybabies and Mexican fans are an ASS...

                      I hope Pac fights other races and stop facing Mexicans.. Mexicans are crybabies and pretenders who always makes excuses on something without giving any credit to someone...
                      are you ignorant?

                      why you saying Mexicans like all of them are like that? just the pacman haters.you cannot judge a whole ethnicity like that man.

                      I know Morales fans are pacman fans now.

                      I am a pacman fan now.

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