I'm surprised there's anything left of Hopkins and Calzaghe

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  • !! Anorak
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    #11
    Originally posted by DiegoFuego
    It's a fight that's really 6 years too late. It's big for Calzaghe (but ALL of his fights are now that he wants to retire with only one good win on his resume)


    I'm not suggesting that The Blow's career is stellar, or that it couldn't have been better, but it does crack me up when ****** little punk Yank kids who don't know anything beyond Showtime and boxrec say that Joe only has one or two good names on his ledger.

    I wonder who the "one name" is? Lacy?

    I guess Kessler, (prime) Reid, (prime) Sheika and Mitchell were just tin cans? LOL.

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    • Orion
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      #12
      Hopkins destroyed Tarver and beat Wright, Calzaghe beat Manfredo and Kessler you tell me which is better.

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      • !! Anorak
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        #13
        Originally posted by ChiTownBaller
        Hopkins destroyed Tarver and beat Wright, Calzaghe beat Manfredo and Kessler you tell me which is better.
        Who are you talking to? ME?

        When did Hopkins "destroy" Tarver??? He fought two close, low-output fights with him and lost both by decision. And Winky was CLEARLY a much smaller man.

        Manfredo was a joke opponent for publicity that should never have been sanctioned.... Kessler was better and more dangerous than Tarver OR Wright.

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        • deuce_drop
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          #14
          Originally posted by !! Anorak
          Who are you talking to? ME?

          When did Hopkins "destroy" Tarver??? He fought two close, low-output fights with him and lost both by decision. And Winky was CLEARLY a much smaller man.

          Manfredo was a joke opponent for publicity that should never have been sanctioned.... Kessler was better and more dangerous than Tarver OR Wright.
          hopkins beat tarver, i think you're mistaken with taylor, who by the way got two gifts from hbo and their hand picked judges.............. taylor did not take a way hopkins belts, not in the sense of what you have to do to take the belts away from the reigning champion at least........ total gifts. taylor was out landed by hopkins, i know for sure in the first fight and i think he eeked him out by a smaller margin in the second fight, but none the less, hopkins did beat tarver.........................real bad too.........

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          • RisAri0
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            #15
            Originally posted by abadger
            This fight has picked apart in excruciating detail on this forum, with the consensus seeming to swing back and forth almost at random.

            First of all Calzaghe was a heavy favourite, then people started wondering aloud whether Hopkins roughhouse tactics might be too much for him. Next came another swing back to Calzaghe, with a backlash against Hopkins age.

            Since then every aspect of each of the fighters games has at various times taken on the status of unbeatable weapon. Joe's handspeed, Bernard's counter right, culminating today in an analysis of Bernard's devastating footwork!

            It's too much! The analysis of this fight requires only one thing:

            "Plain and basic common sense"

            Bernard Hopkins is 43 years old and is demonstrably no longer the fighter he used to be.

            Joe Calzaghe has looked better with each of his recent performances and is younger, stronger and faster.

            Everything points to a Joe Calzaghe win.

            That is all.


            well he is the favorite, right?...everything you said is why the odds are stacked against the executioner...however, I'm still going with a B-Hop win only because of his track record...

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            • warp1432
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              #16
              Originally posted by !! Anorak
              Who are you talking to? ME?

              When did Hopkins "destroy" Tarver??? He fought two close, low-output fights with him and lost both by decision. And Winky was CLEARLY a much smaller man.

              Manfredo was a joke opponent for publicity that should never have been sanctioned.... Kessler was better and more dangerous than Tarver OR Wright.
              Hopkins beat the **** out of Tarver. That's Taylor you are thinking of.

              And Kessler being better then Tarver or Wright is debateable, but it was definietly the riskier fight.

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              • abadger
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                #17
                Originally posted by Kilrain
                Demonstrably no longer the fighter he used to be? Hmm. Demonstrate.
                OK.

                Bernard Hopkins was undefeated for 10 years and had a record breaking number of defences.

                He has lost two of his last four fights.
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                Last edited by abadger; 03-20-2011, 11:08 PM.

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                • abadger
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by !! Anorak
                  Who are you talking to? ME?

                  When did Hopkins "destroy" Tarver??? He fought two close, low-output fights with him and lost both by decision. And Winky was CLEARLY a much smaller man.

                  Manfredo was a joke opponent for publicity that should never have been sanctioned.... Kessler was better and more dangerous than Tarver OR Wright.
                  Good posts. I agree totally. Apparently Joe has never been in a fight in his career and Winky Wright was not carrying 20lbs of blubber.

                  Likewise Kessler is a bum and Tarver is world class.

                  If enough people say it it must be true.

                  LOL
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                  Last edited by abadger; 03-20-2011, 11:08 PM.

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                  • mossimo36
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                    #19
                    Calzaghe by UD. Hopkins gotta get old sometime, might as well be April 19th.

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                    • Dynamite Kid
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ChiTownBaller
                      Hopkins destroyed Tarver and beat Wright, Calzaghe beat Manfredo and Kessler you tell me which is better.
                      Hopkins destroyed Tarver

                      have u atually ever watched the fight or are u extremely biased ,Hopkins never Destroyed him at all ,Tarver was'nt even hurt by the knockdown infact it was more to do with the fact he got caught square on ,at the end of the round it is Hopkins who is on the backfoot not Tarver

                      there was about 5 punches in the whole fight ,took about overstating the win "Destroyed him "

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