Who has the better two victories.

[Silencers]

I think Kaynan has mentioned this but I believe Jones was the underdog going into the Toney fight, so people knew about Toney's weight problems but still thought he was going to win and he was in the top 3 in most people's pound for pound lists.

[Pugilistic™]

jones .........

[Mugwump]

Whilst Joe deserves credit for beating Eubank, it's worth making the point that that that Eubank wasn't anywhere near the one that snatched victory from the jaws of defeat against Watson. Before Watson Eubank was rock solid defensively AND an extremely dangerous puncher.

Prime Eubank vs prime Calzaghe - similarly tough to pick.

[Knicksman20]

Jones wins hands down for all of the reasons mentioned even though there's really no need to debate it.

[THe TRiNiTY]

To tell you the truth, it's a tie to me. For Jones, the Hopkins win, although true and deserved, was not a prime Hopkins and was nothing overtly impressive. Toney had INCREDIBLE weight difficulties and didn't show up in peak condition.

With Calzaghe, he dominated Lacy, but he's an ordinary fighter and has looked like it ever since. Kessler was simply a solid win against a very good solid fighter. Out of the four wins between the two, that ACTUALLY might be the most impressive. I'd go with a tie, however because Lacy really doesn't impress.

[Sweet Peacock]

Any biased poster will admit that Calzaghe's wins are more legit and overall better. His opponents were far more accomplished than the green Hopkins or the weight trouble Toney. On paper, Jones has the two best but Calzaghe has the best overall. Besides, who knows what Lacy or Kessler will accomplish in the future.




Sweet

[TheGreatA]

Any biased poster will admit that Calzaghe's wins are more legit and overall better.

I agree with this.

His opponents were far more accomplished than the green Hopkins or the weight trouble Toney. On paper, Jones has the two best but Calzaghe has the best overall. Besides, who knows what Lacy or Kessler will accomplish in the future.

Toney was much more accomplished than Kessler and Lacy were.
Even when Toney used to be weight-drained, for example against Mike McCallum the 2nd time, he still won the fight.

I don't think Hopkins was one of RJJ's greatest wins though.

[tyson]

On paper it is Roy Jones. But at the moment of fighting it is definitely Joe Calzaghe. Calzaghe was the underdog against Lacy when Roy Jones was expected to batter the unknown Hopkins.

Roy Jones fought a lot of the top fighters on his resume when they were either young and green or old and shot. Calzaghe fought his in their prime.

[riza]

kessler and lacy are not half the fighters hopkins or toney was