The best alternative to Cotto for Floyd?

[frankpaganini]

Just kind of curious what people thought would be the best fight for him if he refuses to fight Cotto.

Please none of the "THE ONLY FIGHT THAT MATTERS IS COTTO!!!!" posts. I know that. I am just curious what everyone thinks the #2 fight is.

i personally believe a fight with Pacquiao (at 140 or otherwise) would be the next best thing...for boxing fans...and it even pans out for the casual fans and the "money making" side of boxing.

I dont think Mosley is the guy (to be honest). Mosley in his prime; no question...but at this stage in his career its only a big money fight...i dont mosley at this point in his career would be the toughest matchup for floyd beyond cotto...

infact i think its an easier fight for mayweather instead of having to deal with a younger, more game fighter like a manny pacquiao or a (yes) miguel cotto.

Vernon Forrest is a good fight in theory but i think some of the other choices listed would be much better (in terms of competition AND money)...

lets be honest (even thought most of us dont care about money) mayweather DOES care about money so his choice of his next fight (beyond de la hoya) money will play a big factor (even over level of competition).

[lee majors]

I still have problems with putting Shane in the same class as Floyd or Pernell. Pernell didn't get dominated by anyone except Trinidad when he had a serious ******* problem and was getting really old. Floyd has never been even remotely dominated.

Mosley got dominated and beaten up twice, by two different fighters (my favorites!).

I thought Shane would beat Cotto, but I am still very uninformed on most fighters, and I made that call after only seeing Mosley fight Wright in their first fight. I just thought he was going to be too fast for Cotto, who I had only seen fight Judah. Not a very informed pick, but I am still trying to get a feel, and betting on fights is useful in trying to get a bigger interest in these fights.

The thing is, Shane had no business going up to fight Vernon or Winky. Shane was a lightweight that skipped two divisions to face Dela hoya. Winky's walk-around weight is about the same a Roys (not sure about Vernen). Floyd fights at his walk-around weight, 147. Shane pretty much does the same. So even if they were to fight a 154, there's really a 30 pound different between Floyd/Shane and Winky/Vernon. Truthfully, Floyd is prolly suppose to be fighting in the 135/140 division. Whereas, I could see both, Winky and Vernon, fighting as viable Middle/super-middle weights. Simply put, I think they might be to big for floyd to fight at this point in his career. If shane stayed his ass in the 147 division, Cotto is his first offical lost. I think Floyd might have learned from Shane's mistakes. O, and I don't think Shane is one the level of Pernell or Floyd, but out of those who make a name for themselves since his retirement I think Shane has been the closes.

[MANGLER]

I'd say Marg cuz he's been callin him out the longest. Marg was ranked no. 1 at welterweight when he 1st started callin out Floyd but even before he lost his belt to Williams Cotto got vaulted ahead of him in the WW rankings by beatin Zab Judah which I thought was kind of shady at the time. Now Cotto's got 1st dibs on challenging Money May but if it don't happen Tony is the no. 2 man.

[Fox McCloud]

The thing is, Shane had no business going up to fight Vernon or Winky. Shane was a lightweight that skipped two divisions to face Dela hoya. Winky's walk-around weight is about the same a Roys (not sure about Vernen). Floyd fights at his walk-around weight, 147. Shane pretty much does the same. So even if they were to fight a 154, there's really a 30 pound different between Floyd/Shane and Winky/Vernon. Truthfully, Floyd is prolly suppose to be fighting in the 135/140 division. Whereas, I could see both, Winky and Vernon, fighting as viable Middle/super-middle weights. Simply put, I think they might be to big for floyd to fight at this point in his career. If shane stayed his ass in the 147 division, Cotto is his first offical lost. I think Floyd might have learned from Shane's mistakes. O, and I don't think Shane is one the level of Pernell or Floyd, but out of those who make a name for themselves since his retirement I think Shane has been the closes.

Both Forrest/Mosley fights were at 147.

Also, if you want to get really technical about it, if you disregard Mosley's career above 135, he isn't really that great of a fighter either. His lightweight record isn't viewed as stellar.

De La Hoya I was his crowning achievement, and that really is about it for him.

[Vladimir303]

The thing is, Shane had no business going up to fight Vernon or Winky. Shane was a lightweight that skipped two divisions to face Dela hoya. Winky's walk-around weight is about the same a Roys (not sure about Vernen). Floyd fights at his walk-around weight, 147. Shane pretty much does the same. So even if they were to fight a 154, there's really a 30 pound different between Floyd/Shane and Winky/Vernon. Truthfully, Floyd is prolly suppose to be fighting in the 135/140 division. Whereas, I could see both, Winky and Vernon, fighting as viable Middle/super-middle weights. Simply put, I think they might be to big for floyd to fight at this point in his career. If shane stayed his ass in the 147 division, Cotto is his first offical lost. I think Floyd might have learned from Shane's mistakes. O, and I don't think Shane is one the level of Pernell or Floyd, but out of those who make a name for themselves since his retirement I think Shane has been the closes.

I agree with everything except the red. Forrest beat him at welterweight. He might have been a big welter but he was no less of a welterweight then Paul Williams or Antonio Margarito at that time. The obvious difference is that the talent gap.......Forrest had major skills along with his size advantage.

[Addison]

Just kind of curious what people thought would be the best fight for him if he refuses to fight Cotto.

Please none of the "THE ONLY FIGHT THAT MATTERS IS COTTO!!!!" posts. I know that. I am just curious what everyone thinks the #2 fight is.

It's hard to say right now because both Mosley and Margarito have fights coming up that will dictate their remaining value.

It's a draw for them right now.

[Vladimir303]

Both Forrest/Mosley fights were at 147.

Also, if you want to get really technical about it, if you disregard Mosley's career above 135, he isn't really that great of a fighter either. His lightweight record isn't viewed as stellar.

De La Hoya I was his crowning achievement, and that really is about it for him.

That's true. If you look at the names on his record he hasn't achieved much.

But if you go by the stats, lightweight, welter, jr.middle, 3-division champion, undefeated lightweight champion, going 37-0 and being ranked p4p #1 for a period of time.

You add all of that with the fact that he defeated Delahoya - a great multi-division champion fighter himself. The fact that some thought he won both the Forrest and Winky rematches.

Then he is a great fighter.

[lee majors]

Both Forrest/Mosley fights were at 147.

Also, if you want to get really technical about it, if you disregard Mosley's career above 135, he isn't really that great of a fighter either. His lightweight record isn't viewed as stellar.

De La Hoya I was his crowning achievement, and that really is about it for him.

Well, my bad on the 147 issue. However, I still think that their to big for floyd to be fighting. It's a huge mismatch on natural strength. Out of the two, I think Floyd would stand a better chance a Vernon. Winky's jab, overall size and defense might be a little to much for Floyd. Maybe if Floyd kept jabbing Winky in the stomach, and hitting him with left hooks. I don't think Floyd would be able to get them lead-right's off like he normally does.

[Chunk..]

Am i the only one who thinks that a fight between Cotto and Hatton at 140 is the best fight up there?

Both fighters have a huge fan-base which would make for an incredible atmosphere and the way this two fight, it'd be a ****ing war!

[Vladimir303]

Am i the only one who thinks that a fight between Cotto and Hatton at 140 is the best fight up there?

Both fighters have a huge fan-base which would make for an incredible atmosphere and the way this two fight, it'd be a ****ing war!

Cotto can't make 140 anymore if you haven't noticed. He drained himself in his last 140 fight which is why he moved up to 147.

Now Hatton moving up to 147 against Cotto....that's different.