FLOYd might one day BE MORE POPular than ALI.....!!!!

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  • BmoreBrawler
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    #71
    Originally posted by boxing_prospect
    horus i see you made an extensive use of the dictionary, watching and listening to the **** that comes out of floyd's mouth can do that to a boxing viewer......he takes after his dad, **** runs in the family. Floyd's only real IQ is lifestyle flashy, he uses that ****** mentality to feel better about himself, because he cant be himself in real life. that says that he's an insecure little ***** who puts on an act, and he aint real. that mother****er is not even from the ******, he'd show up in the hood and he'd get eaten by real men, people who wouldnt give much **** about how flashy his lifestyle is with all them ***els wrapped around his ass.

    in the gatti floyd fight, arturo was the attraction. people came to see him fight, gatti had the reputation for his wars. the robinson fights, the trilogy with ward, and other come from behind victories.

    Gatti was a warrior, he put asses in seats. who was floyd? he was a ****ing school boy with milk on his cheeks.

    in the judah fight it was even. the fight had 2 quick talented boxers and public wanted to see them matched together. the early rounds little junior was ****ting his trunks when zab showed he wasnt playing.

    in the baldomir mayweather fight there was mystique surrounding the fight. people wanted to see if the argentinian could shut that *****'s mouth. it did weak numbers. and it showed why. at least baldomir showed balls to make it a fight, floyd ran, and he did better than anyone on the track team.

    im not gonna argue with you about the hatton, and oscar fights because you still wont get it. it's universally known that hatton and oscar were the real attraction, to say otherwise is utterly ridiculous and biased. AND YOU KNOW IT, you just speaking through bull****, and your love for that little ***** who avoids fights.

    floyd runs fighters who can do his ass in. and that's a fact my friend. that's why he's taking these pointless ****ty rematches, going to WWE, and all that other bs.

    and check your ****ing poll to see whats up


    and for all that dictionary ****, your grammar is not up for par

    its passionately, no such word passionaly

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    • isbj
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      #72
      Fact: Floyd is not even more popular than De La Hoya, so lets not even mention Ali!

      Most casual boxing fans I talk to call him Marry-weather. He's been referred by people in the media by the same name. If they can't get your name right your not popular yet!

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      • Horus
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        #73
        Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
        I got owned on spelling..ok i agree than I spelled a word wrong..
        you won..



        BUT the rest of his post was supported with no facts...

        Just opinions...

        He hates mayweather i get it...But to discredit mayweather for no reasons other then hate is something i dont get...


        Where are his Facts at..???

        Did he Give evidence to his claims...
        did he Give Facts to support his argument...


        my whole post are supported with FACTs

        His is with Opinions

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        • -Antonio-
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          #74
          Hey Horus, are you going to go study Floyd's chat so you can repeat everything he says again?

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          • Horus
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            #75
            Originally posted by Horus
            Do you feel Mayweather's drawing power has increased over his last 2 PPV's ?


            Without a doubt, In the last two P.P.V's Mayweather has finally Figure out what works for him....He understand's that he doesnt have the Charm Nor a effective Authentic Persona to be a popular fighter yet... It would seem fake if Mayweather try to start acting like "Shane Mosley" or "Oscar De La Hoya"
            because those guys have a humble Charm about them...and Floyd doesnt... That's why he has taken the road of being the Ultimate Bad Guy.. and thus that have made Him Notorious...!!

            What kind of PPV numbers would you expect from a Mayweather/Margarito or Mayweather/Williams without 24/7?


            24/7 really re-Introduce Floyd to America and the world as the new Ali from the "Notorious" Standpoint.. It was a Brilliant marketing plan... And I think That Help boost Floyd's appeal..

            I think if Floyd fought Margarito or Williams right now with no 24/7..
            The P.P.V would do around 500,000 P.P.V buys at this point of Floyd Career..

            Because remember Floyd vs. Judah didnt have a countdown Show or any Promotion on HBO besides reminders of the fight...

            and that did 375,000 P.P.V and that was before Floyd had the oppurtunity to re-introduce himself to the world....

            So now Floyd's Name alone is going to sell...Because Margarito and Williams arent big name's yet and they have No Drawing Power...but if Floyd Fought them people would buy the fight thinking floyd might lose to the bigger man..


            Look at Oscar vs.a fighter without a well known Name


            Felix Sturm (6/04) 380,000 buys = $19.0 million

            This is after Oscar already had 3 Mega Fights over 925,000 P.P.V buys...
            Trinidad, Fernando Vargas, Shane Mosley
            This also after Oscar already had 4 fights of P.P.V over 550,000 P.P.V buys
            Hector Camacho, Ike Quartey, J.C Chavez II, Shane Mosley,


            So how do you do only 380,000 after all of that exposure in MEGA FIGHTS...?
            And this is Oscar De La Hoya..... So that shows you how much ExposURe in the United States Affect P.P.V sales...

            and I think That Would happen to Floyd too...



            Do you think his PPV numbers would slide back down to his Judah or Baldomir level, slight increase, or huge increase?


            Floyd vs. Baldomir was a Huge Success when you put it into Perspective

            Floyd vs. Judah was better than 2/5 of the most Highest Selling P.P.V EVER not including a HeavyWeight or Oscar..

            And if you Say Judah was superstar before the Mayweather Fight how..??

            Because What exactly makes Judah a superstar or a big name? that was his first PPV and he had done nothing before that to prove he was a major draw.

            There are only a handful of true superstars in the sport. DLH, Trinidad, Hopkins, Jones. Mayweather , and Pacquiao

            Judah is and was nowhere near that level before and After. Would a superstar take $100k to fight Cory Spinks fighting in his own backyard..?


            Does that answer your Question...



            and oh yeah No disrespect taken...
            People keep saying the samething....Here is a answer to some of those statments...
            Last edited by Horus; 03-28-2008, 01:16 PM.

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            • Horus
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              #76
              Originally posted by isbj
              Fact: Floyd is not even more popular than De La Hoya, so lets not even mention Ali!

              Most casual boxing fans I talk to call him Marry-weather. He's been referred by people in the media by the same name. If they can't get your name right your not popular yet!
              Popular vs.Notorious

              Popular :
              regarded with favor, approval, or affection by people in general

              Notorious: publicly or generally known, as for a particular trait


              People think you have to be popular in order to be a draw.....THAT is a MYTH..., and FACTS just dont support it...


              The point of this Thread is Floyd doesnt need to be popular to be a draw....
              His drawing power comes from being Notorious, and being a celebrated fighter..



              Man The dude said it his self....
              Their has to be a good guy and a Bad guy....

              and he has choosen to be the Bad guy...

              Like i said before I don’t think WHAT Floyd is doing is a bad thing....
              Some of the most "Famous and successful" people history has ever known
              Have been more "Notorious" than Popular... or Have been "Notorious" before they became "Popular"


              Al Capone
              2pac
              Biggie
              Ali
              Malcolm X
              Kobe Bryant
              Terrell Owens
              Deion Sanders
              Britney Spears
              Charles Barkley
              Scarface (Tony Montana)
              The list goes on....




              Floyd will become a Fan Favorite one day. but right now I dont see no reason to stop what he is doing... THE **** IS WORKING....

              "If it aint broke dont fix it..."

              He tryed the good guy role early in his career it didnt work..
              Now he is the ultimate bad guy and it's working....


              Floyd will never be as Popular as Oscar...That doesnt meaned he cant become a Draw like Oscar..!!

              Oscar draw is base on "Popularity"
              Floyd's draw is based on Being "Notorious"


              And it is wORKing...

              He is the 2nd biggest draw in Boxing ...

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              • deevel79
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                #77
                Horus, hate and love for Floyd aside. I have 1 question for you. How can u continue to support a guy like Floyd, after he has turned his back on the fans and the sport? How?

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                • Horus
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by deevel79
                  Horus, hate and love for Floyd aside. I have 1 question for you. How can u continue to support a guy like Floyd, after he has turned his back on the fans and the sport? How?
                  How can u continue to support a guy like Floyd,
                  after he has turned his back on the fans and the sport?


                  To say he his turn his back on his fans is not right:


                  He has a whole organization for Battered Women (BEEN DOing that for years)
                  He feeds families for thanksgiving(BEEN DOing that for years)
                  He goes to schools in the inner city and gives kids Speeches and buy them clothes and boxing gloves and etc.......

                  He even open up a boxing gym in His home town for the kids....
                  **** he even throws out money to people who dont even like him...

                  So to say heturn his back on his fans is wrong,and it is not being fair....

                  The dude does do his charity but the media doesnt focus on that...


                  has he turned his back on the sport..


                  How is he turned his back on the Sport..??

                  Because he is doing Wrestling...?
                  Ali did wrestling too, so did ali turn his back on the sport?
                  Tyson did Wrestling did he turn his back on the sport?
                  But When Mayweather does wrestling he is turning his back on the sport...?

                  Where is the rule that Boxers can only focus on boxing....

                  The guy can make 20 million Dollars For a fake fight...!!
                  and he should turn that down..

                  This dude is probably one of the most smart business people i ever seen in my life...

                  He was making 3 million dollars fighting Henry Burless ..




                  I like Floyd because He stands against the conventional way of doing things..
                  He is his own boss
                  He understands what have to be done to be successful and he is doing it, no matter what people think...

                  He is a Trailblazer...

                  Just Like the Way I like Kobe Bryant,2pac, and other people who stands against the conventional way of doing things in their fields of work...


                  And ultimately That what i do.. I stand against the conventional way of doing things


                  Notice how i get hated on..!!!
                  Last edited by Horus; 03-28-2008, 01:39 PM.

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                  • DrewWoodside
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                    #79
                    Facts strung together to create an angle/argument don't neccessarily add up to equal a truth. Politicians string together information and facts related to a thesis all the time and it doesn't mean that they are succsesfully proving anything. They are simply manipulating information in an effort to support an agenda or idea. That is why boxing is fun to debate and talk about. There are rarely absolute truths in the sport outside of who won and who lost, and even that is questionable from time to time. You seem to think your some sort of oracle but for most reading your posts your just a pain in the ass and another thread skipped.

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                    • deevel79
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Horus
                      How can u continue to support a guy like Floyd,
                      after he has turned his back on the fans and the sport?


                      To say he his turn his back on his fans is not right:


                      He has a whole organization for Battered Women (BEEN DOing that for years)
                      He feeds families for thanksgiving(BEEN DOing that for years)
                      He goes to schools in the inner city and gives kids Speeches and buy them clothes and boxing gloves and etc.......

                      He even open up a boxing gym in His home town for the kids....
                      **** he even throws out money to people who dont even like him...

                      So to say heturn his back on his fans is wrong,and it is not being fair....

                      The dude does do his charity but the media doesnt focus on that...


                      has he turned his back on the sport..


                      How is he turned his back on the Sport..??

                      Because he is doing Wrestling...?
                      Ali did wrestling too, so did ali turn his back on the sport?
                      Tyson did Wrestling did he turn his back on the sport?
                      But When Mayweather does wrestling he is turning his back on the sport...?

                      Where is the rule that Boxers can only focus on boxing....

                      The guy can make 20 million Dollars For a fake fight...!!
                      and he should turn that down..

                      This dude is probably one of the most smart business people i ever seen in my life...

                      He was making 3 million dollars fighting Henry Burless ..




                      I like Floyd because He stands against the conventional way of doing things..
                      He is his own boss
                      He understands what have to be done to be successful and he is doing it, no matter what people think...

                      He is a Trailblazer...

                      Just Like the Way I like Kobe Bryant,2pac, and other people who stands against the conventional way of doing things in their fields of work...


                      And ultimately That what i do.. I stand against the conventional way of doing things
                      The battered women, turkey giveouts, and things he does for children is all nice, but that has nothing to do with his fans. I doubt that those people even purchase his ppv fights. If u cant afford a turkey, i highly doubt u can afford to purchase on of his ppv's.

                      Im not knocking Floyd for his charity work. I think its a good thing. But to say that "boxing is in my rearview mirror", and "i might dump boxing for WWE" is slap in the face to the fans who have supported him up until now, and a slap in the face to the sport. If Floyd was handling his business in the ring, and taking on the challenges that 99% of the boxing world feels he should be taking on, then i dont think anyone would have a problem with him venturing off on his spare time and doing whatever the hell he feels like doing. Problem is, he's not! Oscar made him rich, and now Floyd is acting like a spoiled brat who feels boxing owes him! LOL. I'll stick to respecting, and cheering on the REAL fighters. Thank god boxing there is still a few of those guys left.


                      Oh...P.S He is NOT making 20mil for his Wrestlemania event.
                      Last edited by deevel79; 03-28-2008, 01:49 PM.

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