This is rediculous, how is Kessler scared? when he is now fighting a better opponent?

[Dick-Sucker]

WHOA!!!! Better chin than anyone Miranda has knocked out? Sven Ottke has something to say about that. Same on punch power as Miranda? LMAO this thread is hilarious.

Have there been any announcnements?

Team Kessler have had several in the past couple of days.

[Dick-Sucker]

A poster from another boxing forum who told me he has coffee with Mundines managers friend, nearly every day.

ESB:The whole thing is very simple. I'm not sure what everyone is having trouble with?

ESB:Kessler wanted to fight in America, against well-known Americans, like Winky, Taylor or Pavlik but none of them wanted to fight him, given the current risk/reward (and lack of belts), with Kessler coming off a loss no less. Showtime, however, decided to give Kessler a shot and picked well-known and highly rated Miranda for the role. Kessler wasn't keen on the idea, but it was the best offer out there for him, so they started negotiations. Then, a couple of days ago, when negotiations were almost over and the deal remained just to be signed, the WBA caved in under much pressure from fans and journalists to rank Kessler in the No. 1 position for a shot at Mundine (he used to be second after Breahmer. Braehmer "decided to be ranked at LHW instead"). The WBA must also have put its foot down to force Mundine to fight Kessler sooner rather than later, given that Mundine had been messing about for ages, not fghting any meaningful fights. He is supposed to have wanted to fight Soliman next, probably as a mandatory too - the WBA must have said: enough is enough - we're turning into a laughing stock and the fans and the commentators have lost all respect for us. So, the WBA must have promised Kessler a shot at Mundine sooner rather than later (i.e. sooner than 6 months or so - otherwise, Kessler would have fought Miranda in the meantime...)

Hearing that if he [Kessler] had the option of forcing (throught the WBA) a fight against Mundine sooner rather than later, Kessler must have said: you know what - I'll take the fight against Mundine sooner rather than later and I'll pass on Miranda, because the title is more important to me than becoming better known in the USA, in the short term. The reason he might have said this is: with a title, he thinks his chance of attracting bigger names like Winky, Taylor and Pavlik is greater and beating Mundine rather than Miranda would also prove he is again the man at 168, with Calzaghe out of the picture.

Also, it seems Kessler was promissed a fight against Winky if he beats Mundine, afterwards...So, of course, Kessler went for it. The reason Mundine is interested is because he is forced by the WBA to fight Kessler, and because, like Kessler, he will get a shot at Winky if he wins - also, his fans want him to get down to business - no one is prepared to give him any more slack.

It's well known that Winky has spoken to both Mundine and Kessler about a possible fight. He seems to have decided to fight the winner. Good for him.

So...this is it. What's so complicated?


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Back to me, whats your thoughts.

[BattlingNelson]

A poster from another boxing forum who told me he has coffee with Mundines managers friend, nearly every day.

ESB:The whole thing is very simple. I'm not sure what everyone is having trouble with?

ESB:Kessler wanted to fight in America, against well-known Americans, like Winky, Taylor or Pavlik but none of them wanted to fight him, given the current risk/reward (and lack of belts), with Kessler coming off a loss no less. Showtime, however, decided to give Kessler a shot and picked well-known and highly rated Miranda for the role. Kessler wasn't keen on the idea, but it was the best offer out there for him, so they started negotiations. Then, a couple of days ago, when negotiations were almost over and the deal remained just to be signed, the WBA caved in under much pressure from fans and journalists to rank Kessler in the No. 1 position for a shot at Mundine (he used to be second after Breahmer. Braehmer "decided to be ranked at LHW instead"). The WBA must also have put its foot down to force Mundine to fight Kessler sooner rather than later, given that Mundine had been messing about for ages, not fghting any meaningful fights. He is supposed to have wanted to fight Soliman next, probably as a mandatory too - the WBA must have said: enough is enough - we're turning into a laughing stock and the fans and the commentators have lost all respect for us. So, the WBA must have promised Kessler a shot at Mundine sooner rather than later (i.e. sooner than 6 months or so - otherwise, Kessler would have fought Miranda in the meantime...)

Hearing that if he [Kessler] had the option of forcing (throught the WBA) a fight against Mundine sooner rather than later, Kessler must have said: you know what - I'll take the fight against Mundine sooner rather than later and I'll pass on Miranda, because the title is more important to me than becoming better known in the USA, in the short term. The reason he might have said this is: with a title, he thinks his chance of attracting bigger names like Winky, Taylor and Pavlik is greater and beating Mundine rather than Miranda would also prove he is again the man at 168, with Calzaghe out of the picture.

Also, it seems Kessler was promissed a fight against Winky if he beats Mundine, afterwards...So, of course, Kessler went for it. The reason Mundine is interested is because he is forced by the WBA to fight Kessler, and because, like Kessler, he will get a shot at Winky if he wins - also, his fans want him to get down to business - no one is prepared to give him any more slack.

It's well known that Winky has spoken to both Mundine and Kessler about a possible fight. He seems to have decided to fight the winner. Good for him.

So...this is it. What's so complicated?


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Back to me, whats your thoughts.

Good analysis.

I don't understand the Winky angle TBH. I didn't think he'd fight above MW.

My take on Kessler: He should be ashamed of himself. Backing out of a fight thats ready to be signed. I suppose there's not much honour in Team Palle. Keeping Team Miranda for fools. PHEW.

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[BattlingNelson]

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lol. Ottke with a one-punch KO over the Oz superstar Mundine.... In your sig!!! What a slap.

[K-Nan]

The fact that Sven Ottke got a legitimate win over this guy says everything...

But you can say more by pointing out that he already fought Mundine.

[Dick-Sucker]

The fact that Sven Ottke got a legitimate win over this guy says everything...

But you can say more by pointing out that he already fought Mundine.

I think what says everything is that thats not the same Mundine that kessler will fight this time around. If you show some half decent boxing knowledge and stop acting like a child you will discover this. You seem very lazy and intent on not watching any of Mundines recent fights.

Mundine will be a slight outsider for the Kessler fight. And he has every chance of winning.

Maybe watch his performances against Green and Soliman and look at his improvements. Also note he was winning the fight against Ottke, after no amateur career and in just his 10th pro fight. Dropped by a lucky punch.

Use your common sense mate. Seriously.

[THe TRiNiTY]

The bigger money is with Miranda, as is the TV audience. And Miranda is such a limited fighter. You would think that getting paid for exposure to YOURSELF and fighting such a **** fighter would be reason enough to NOT back out of the 'easy fight'.

Jesus, sometimes I don't get people.

[Dick-Sucker]

The bigger money is with Miranda, as is the TV audience. And Miranda is such a limited fighter. You would think that getting paid for exposure to YOURSELF and fighting such a **** fighter would be reason enough to NOT back out of the 'easy fight'.

Jesus, sometimes I don't get people.

I have seen the contract for Kessler vs Miranda. Kessler was going to be paid 400 000 Euros. Which is nothing. If he fought Mundine in OZ he would make 2.5$ million with ease.

Keep dreaming. Mundine is a big draw in Oz.

I have seen the contract demands for Kess vs Miranda.

The pay is ****.

Kessler will make more against Choc.

[THe TRiNiTY]

I have seen the contract for Kessler vs Miranda. Kessler was going to be paid 400 000 Euros. Which is nothing. If he fought Mundine in OZ he would make 2.5$ million with ease.

Keep dreaming. Mundine is a big draw in Oz.

I have seen the contract demands for Kess vs Miranda.

The pay is ****.

Kessler will make more against Choc.

They're most likely gonna fight in the States. So, there's that.